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    When was the last time Floyd was in a fight where he wasn't the overwhelming favorite
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    Quote Originally Posted by La Cucaracha View Post
    When was the last time Floyd was in a fight where he wasn't the overwhelming favorite
    When you've been the #1 p4p in the sport for nearly 10 years, and you've gone 18 years in boxing without taking a loss, bookies will generally put you as the favourite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by La Cucaracha View Post
    When was the last time Floyd was in a fight where he wasn't the overwhelming favorite
    When you've been the #1 p4p in the sport for nearly 10 years, and you've gone 18 years in boxing without taking a loss, bookies will generally put you as the favourite.
    True but there are fights where he wouldnt be as strong a fav as usual but he wont take them. He would have been 4/7 - 4/6 a few years ago against Pac. Hed be a similar price against GGG. I doubt hed be much shorter than 1/3 v Thurman. He'll be about 1/4 v Khan which will be his biggest price for a long time. He did go off around 2/5 v Canelo but that was due to flood of Money on Canelo. THe bookies had him open around 1/5. Instead of Khan he took Maidana twice where he was 1/16 in the 1st and 1/10 in the 2nd.

    Again Beans he is a great fighter and an ATG but I dont see how you can suggest he has fought the best possible opponents in their primes which is my only criticism of him. I know this is the case with lots of other fighters in history but most of the other ATGs have that big win that keeps them ahead of Floyd in my rankings.

    I am a floyd hater. Id love to see him lose. But Ive never criticised his boxing ability and hes definitely the best fighter of my generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    True but there are fights where he wouldnt be as strong a fav as usual but he wont take them. He would have been 4/7 - 4/6 a few years ago against Pac. Hed be a similar price against GGG. I doubt hed be much shorter than 1/3 v Thurman. He'll be about 1/4 v Khan which will be his biggest price for a long time. He did go off around 2/5 v Canelo but that was due to flood of Money on Canelo. THe bookies had him open around 1/5. Instead of Khan he took Maidana twice where he was 1/16 in the 1st and 1/10 in the 2nd.

    Again Beans he is a great fighter and an ATG but I dont see how you can suggest he has fought the best possible opponents in their primes which is my only criticism of him. I know this is the case with lots of other fighters in history but most of the other ATGs have that big win that keeps them ahead of Floyd in my rankings.

    I am a floyd hater. Id love to see him lose. But Ive never criticised his boxing ability and hes definitely the best fighter of my generation.
    You tell me a guy he didn't fight in their prime and I'll give you evidence of Floyd calling them out or trying to make the fight happen. Not my opinion or a guess, but real evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    True but there are fights where he wouldnt be as strong a fav as usual but he wont take them. He would have been 4/7 - 4/6 a few years ago against Pac. Hed be a similar price against GGG. I doubt hed be much shorter than 1/3 v Thurman. He'll be about 1/4 v Khan which will be his biggest price for a long time. He did go off around 2/5 v Canelo but that was due to flood of Money on Canelo. THe bookies had him open around 1/5. Instead of Khan he took Maidana twice where he was 1/16 in the 1st and 1/10 in the 2nd.

    Again Beans he is a great fighter and an ATG but I dont see how you can suggest he has fought the best possible opponents in their primes which is my only criticism of him. I know this is the case with lots of other fighters in history but most of the other ATGs have that big win that keeps them ahead of Floyd in my rankings.

    I am a floyd hater. Id love to see him lose. But Ive never criticised his boxing ability and hes definitely the best fighter of my generation.
    You tell me a guy he didn't fight in their prime and I'll give you evidence of Floyd calling them out or trying to make the fight happen. Not my opinion or a guess, but real evidence.
    im not saying he ducked anyone Im just saying he hasnt fought an elite fighter in their prime. Some will argue Canelo but I dont think hes elite, id argue his best is still yet to come, and it was at a catchweight where he was weakened.

    Also if he really wanted the Manny fight I know he could have made it happen. Im not saying he ducked him as there are fair demands he made that Manny wouldnt do but I believe if he really wanted it would have happened

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    Default Re: Comparing Floyd and Bhop's opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by La Cucaracha View Post
    When was the last time Floyd was in a fight where he wasn't the overwhelming favorite
    When you've been the #1 p4p in the sport for nearly 10 years, and you've gone 18 years in boxing without taking a loss, bookies will generally put you as the favourite.
    I think if he signed to fight Golovkin next the odds would be close when he was supposed to fight Wright I think it would have been close when Martinez was chasing Floyd and Pac after destroying Williams would have been another challenge

    Calling someone out and actually fighting them are not the same thing I'll call you out right now but it don't mean sh-t until we actually fight
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