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    Scrap was right keeping your chin up helps relax your back so if you keep your chin tucked down below 50° actually has the opposite effect T Nation | Little Known, Controversial Deadlift Tips

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Scrap was right keeping your chin up helps relax your back so if you keep your chin tucked down below 50° actually has the opposite effect T Nation | Little Known, Controversial Deadlift Tips
    Never said keep the chin up, you keep it in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Scrap was right keeping your chin up helps relax your back so if you keep your chin tucked down below 50° actually has the opposite effect T Nation | Little Known, Controversial Deadlift Tips
    Never said keep the chin up, you keep it in.
    Right! Tucked in at 15 degrees. Meant keeping it tucked into your chest like I'm being taught now. Which doesn't relax the back.
    http://www.sugar boxing.com/the-science-of-mike-tyson-and-elements-of-peek-a-boo-part-ii/

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
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    Scrap was right keeping your chin up helps relax your back so if you keep your chin tucked down below 50° actually has the opposite effect T Nation | Little Known, Controversial Deadlift Tips
    Never said keep the chin up, you keep it in.
    Right! Tucked in at 15 degrees. Meant keeping it tucked into your chest like I'm being taught now. Which doesn't relax the back.
    http://www.sugar boxing.com/the-science-of-mike-tyson-and-elements-of-peek-a-boo-part-ii/
    Down restricts the airways and the mechanics of balance. Also you are waiting to get hit, not a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
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    Scrap was right keeping your chin up helps relax your back so if you keep your chin tucked down below 50° actually has the opposite effect T Nation | Little Known, Controversial Deadlift Tips
    Never said keep the chin up, you keep it in.
    Right! Tucked in at 15 degrees. Meant keeping it tucked into your chest like I'm being taught now. Which doesn't relax the back.
    http://www.sugar boxing.com/the-science-of-mike-tyson-and-elements-of-peek-a-boo-part-ii/
    Down restricts the airways and the mechanics of balance. Also you are waiting to get hit, not a good idea.
    I got hit by the uppercut the other day... No head is a bad idea... Will keeping my head down effect stamina and endurance in the later rounds?

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    Chin position is one of the most important factors and 99.9% of people coaching fighters have got it wrong. if your chin isnt in the right place your shoulders arent primed for attacks and your hips arent in optimal position to punch or move with strength, speed or control. Chin position effects everything.

    I could go into a great amount of detail asto why scrap is correct but i dont have time, easier to just say listen to what he says. Greats dont count Tyson could break posture without it effecting his punch power or mobility because he was tyson and he was skilled.

    The average joe blogs cant do what tyson does and cant punch like tyson because of the reasons scrap points out, bad positioning makes it difficult. if joe blogs is shown good positioning he has half a chance of hitting with power like tyson, kink his posture like tyson did and uve made it too difficult for average joe, he doesnt have the motor unit recruitment capacity to do it. Tyson did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WayneFlint View Post
    Chin position is one of the most important factors and 99.9% of people coaching fighters have got it wrong. if your chin isnt in the right place your shoulders arent primed for attacks and your hips arent in optimal position to punch or move with strength, speed or control. Chin position effects everything.

    I could go into a great amount of detail asto why scrap is correct but i dont have time, easier to just say listen to what he says. Greats dont count Tyson could break posture without it effecting his punch power or mobility because he was tyson and he was skilled.

    The average joe blogs cant do what tyson does and cant punch like tyson because of the reasons scrap points out, bad positioning makes it difficult. if joe blogs is shown good positioning he has half a chance of hitting with power like tyson, kink his posture like tyson did and uve made it too difficult for average joe, he doesnt have the motor unit recruitment capacity to do it. Tyson did.
    Wayne can you explain to me why a top level coach would want his fighters to keep their heads down for, When they're coming in with their chin almost touching the chest and bobbing and weaving knowing that there's no power behind that? Why would a coach say no standing up straight keep your head down and get inside?

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    I would say its because a lot of trainers dont think about posture, maybe because they dont understand the potential to be had in terms of posture and its effects on strength, power and mobility.

    They are trying to give the chin some cover from hooks, however there is too much lost in the tradeoff for my likeing.

    You must think in the most basic terms also in boxing, bobbing around low down with your chin on the chest opens you up for uppercuts that can be thrown while your coming in.

    Without sounding like a kiss ass the bare knacker of it is i have trained with all types of coaches at national level inmultiple combat sports since i was 6 and i have never met anyone who puts a fraction of the thought that scrap puts into his work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WayneFlint View Post
    I would say its because a lot of trainers dont think about posture, maybe because they dont understand the potential to be had in terms of posture and its effects on strength, power and mobility.

    They are trying to give the chin some cover from hooks, however there is too much lost in the tradeoff for my likeing.

    You must think in the most basic terms also in boxing, bobbing around low down with your chin on the chest opens you up for uppercuts that can be thrown while your coming in.

    Without sounding like a kiss ass the bare knacker of it is i have trained with all types of coaches at national level inmultiple combat sports since i was 6 and i have never met anyone who puts a fraction of the thought that scrap puts into his work.
    That's it! I can already hear it you got hit square and proper because your chin was up.next time try and stick your chin into the chest!
    This may work well for a diver but for the average person it doesn't. much better to move out on the backfoot and lean backwards, when dealing with the hooks.http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...66_634x420.jpg
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