Sonny Liston ~ "I Negotiated Both Contracts For My Bouts With Cassius Clay"

[Bill Paxtom]

Charles 'Sonny' Liston

I'm a businessman first, and a boxer second. I go where the money is.
Ain't no Fucking Trophy or Belt going to buy me a new Cadillac.

And I like a new Cadillac every year. Whether I beat Clay or not, makes
no difference to me. As long as I get paid, that is what matters.

I'm in a no lose situation, as I have a contract {rematch} for other bouts
in the future.

[walrus]

Charles 'Sonny' Liston

I'm a businessman first, and a boxer second. I go where the money is.
Ain't no Fucking Trophy or Belt going to buy me a new Cadillac.

And I like a new Cadillac every year. Whether I beat Clay or not, makes
no difference to me. As long as I get paid, that is what matters.

I'm in a no lose situation, as I have a contract {rematch} for other bouts
in the future.

I have a Cadillac and it has been nothing but a headache. Of course I can't buy a new one every year.

[Bill Paxtom]

Sonny Liston

Likes the Cadillac Brougham, with a Car Telehone.

He liked to be called 'Top Cat' or Charles when you called him.

[Master]

So what? That may have been the done thing at that time but if Sonny really liked money he makes more by beating Ali and controlling his own destiny. He lost both fights. Ali was superior and he never ran. Watch the first round he ran at Sonny and beat him silly.

[Bill Paxtom]

You are incorrect Sir,

A}
Sonny had no place to go anymore. Nobody wanted to deal with him, and his
management team of Jack and Robert Nilon wanted to end their relationship with
Sonny. They were looking to cash in their 'chips', and deals were to be made.

B}
If Sonny Boy defeats Cassius, just who does he fight next. Who can bring in big money.

Ingemar Johansson was the only one who could bring in big bucks, but only in Sweden,
as Sonny Boy was banned from fighting in Europe.

'INGO" could not fight in the United States, as he had owed the Feds big bucks from the
Floyd Patterson bouts.

What 'decent' money bouts were out there, had Sonny Boy defeated Cassius Clay in
February 1964.

* Eddie Machen ............ No way, despite being the #2 Challenger at the time.
* Harold Johnson .......... He just lost to Willie Pastrano
* Doug Jones ............... Too small
* Floyd Patterson .......... No way for a 3rd Bout
* Ernie Terrell ............... Maybe, but there was no money
* George Chuvalo .......... Ahh !!
* Cleveland Williams ...... Not again.
* Willie Pastrano ........... Too little
* Henry Cooper ............ Oh Geez

[ruthless rocco]

So what? That may have been the done thing at that time but if Sonny really liked money he makes more by beating Ali and controlling his own destiny. He lost both fights. Ali was superior and he never ran. Watch the first round he ran at Sonny and beat him silly.

HEY! Don't give Bill such a hard time. He was told all this stuff by his old neighbour while they gave each other deep penetrating massages and talked about the sweaty black fighters from the days of their youth.

[Bill Paxtom]

Ruthless Rocco

Why you 'filth'.

[Master]

Bill the filth is because you are illogical.

Sonny makes more money being the champion than if he lost. Simple.