Boxing Forums



User Tag List

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Dislikes Dislikes:  0
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 22 of 22

Thread: Sonny Liston ~ "I Negotiated Both Contracts For My Bouts With Cassius Clay"

Share/Bookmark
  1. #16
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3,795
    Mentioned
    87 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Sonny Liston ~ "I Negotiated Both Contracts For My Bouts With Cassius Clay"

    Wrong Master,

    If Sonny loses to Cassius Clay on February 24, 1964 - he walks away with
    about $1,000,000 - plus +

    Sonny Boy gets a 'rematch' and his {I-C-P} gets to promote the bout, plus they
    get to promote Cassius Clay's next Title Defense {which would be against Floyd Patterson}.

    That's '3' with Egg Roll.

    The money is in the Closed Circuit promotion, 'not' in the fight purse.

    With Closed Circuit receipts

    Sonny gets Money............ and a lot of it, plus a house in Las Vegas, '2' new Cadillac's
    and all gambling debts 'washed away'.

    His wife Geraldine, even got a 'fully' stocked clothes boutique at the Sands Hotel in
    Las Vegas to operate. Worth another cool $50,000.

    Yes, Sonny Liston was a smart businessman.
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 11-21-2014 at 03:49 AM.

  2. #17
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    66,314
    Mentioned
    1697 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    3107
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Sonny Liston ~ "I Negotiated Both Contracts For My Bouts With Cassius Clay"

    Think about what you are saying!

    If Sonny is a smart businessman then how can he have put himself in a situation where he would make more money losing the fight than winning.

    Dumb, unless what you are saying is all the wrong end of the stick which it quite probably be.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

  3. #18
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3,795
    Mentioned
    87 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Sonny Liston ~ "I Negotiated Both Contracts For My Bouts With Cassius Clay"

    Mr. Master

    Economics 101

    If Sonny Boy demolished 21 year-old Cassius Clay in February 1964,

    Just what bout would Sonny Boy have next in 1964.

    The answer is 'None'.

    Eddie Machen was the next Challenger in line, but that bout would have
    drawn 'Zero' interest from the public.

    And, with the United States Marginal Tax-Rate at the time, Sonny Boy
    would have been fighting for 'nothing'.

    But, if Sonny Boy 'loses' to Cassius Clay in a controversial manner, Bingo.

    Sonny Boy gets the $$$ rematch money {guarantee} and the 'rights' to
    the promotion, and more.

    Be advised, that Sonny Boy got very little money in his '2' bouts with
    Floyd Patterson.

  4. #19
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    66,314
    Mentioned
    1697 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    3107
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Sonny Liston ~ "I Negotiated Both Contracts For My Bouts With Cassius Clay"

    Sonny lost to the better man and there was no controversy.

    The second one was and they did not have a third which blows away your theory again.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

  5. #20
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3,795
    Mentioned
    87 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Sonny Liston ~ "I Negotiated Both Contracts For My Bouts With Cassius Clay"

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Sonny lost to the better man and there was no controversy.

    The second one was and they did not have a third which blows away your theory again.
    I guess you never met Robert Nilon or William Faversham Jr.

    Do you even know who they are ?

  6. #21
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Ex'way to your Skull
    Posts
    25,024
    Mentioned
    232 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Sonny Liston ~ "I Negotiated Both Contracts For My Bouts With Cassius Clay"

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Sonny lost to the better man and there was no controversy.

    The second one was and they did not have a third which blows away your theory again.
    I guess you never met Robert Nilon or William Faversham Jr.

    Do you even know who they are ?
    Robert J. Nilon

    Robert J. Nilon, 66, “One day at a time” of Lynn Township, Lehigh County, died Friday, January 30, 2009 in Palmerton Hospital.

    Born in Darby, Delaware County, PA, he was a son of the late John W. and Lillian E. (Douthwaite) Nilon. He was Roman Catholic. He was a US Army veteran of the Vietnam War. For many years he was a truck driver for various companies. From 1988 until his retirement in 2003 he owned and operated Blue Mountain House of Hope, Inc., an inpatient facility for addiction recovery, now White Deer Run at Blue Mountain, Kempton, PA. He enjoyed racing sprint cars, sports and riding motorcycles.

  7. #22
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3,795
    Mentioned
    87 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Sonny Liston ~ "I Negotiated Both Contracts For My Bouts With Cassius Clay"

    See below >

    Robert Nilon ..... President of I-C-P
    Jack Nilon ........ Manager of Charles 'Sonny' Liston
    James Nilon ..... Treasurer of I-C-P

    I-C-P was the promotional group that 'handled' Charles 'Sonny' Liston.

    The Nilon Brothers started a concession business out of Chester {Delaware County}
    Pennsylvania in the late-1940's,

    By 1953, it had grown into a multi-million dollar a year business.

    The last thing they wanted, was 'noise' from Charles 'Sonny' Liston after 1963.
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 11-22-2014 at 07:35 PM.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Similar Threads

  1. Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
    By ICB in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 43
    Last Post: 07-10-2015, 08:59 PM
  2. Replies: 7
    Last Post: 10-22-2014, 10:34 PM
  3. Replies: 16
    Last Post: 10-19-2014, 02:21 PM
  4. Cassius Clay ~ "1967 Planned Title Bouts"
    By Bill Paxtom in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 07-25-2014, 09:19 AM
  5. any1 have infamous cassius clay sonny liston weigh in
    By undefeated in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-06-2007, 05:28 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  




Boxing | Boxing Photos | Boxing News | Boxing Forum | Boxing Rankings

Copyright © 2000 - 2025 Saddo Boxing - Boxing