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    Default Re: It could be close - Arum in talks with Showtime for Floyd /Pacquiao Mega Fight

    Both guys are going to make more money than most athletes could even dream of, but still I have to wonder how much less Manny would get for the Floyd fight now as opposed to back in 2010 if he had agreed to the drug test.

    In other words, how many millions did that one punch from JMM cost him? I mean we have to be talking high into the 8 figures, because I think originally they were going to do a 50/50 split.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Both guys are going to make more money than most athletes could even dream of, but still I have to wonder how much less Manny would get for the Floyd fight now as opposed to back in 2010 if he had agreed to the drug test.

    In other words, how many millions did that one punch from JMM cost him? I mean we have to be talking high into the 8 figures, because I think originally they were going to do a 50/50 split.
    It is there fault about what they could have made for not making the fight earlier. They should be happy with the small crumbs they are making now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Both guys are going to make more money than most athletes could even dream of, but still I have to wonder how much less Manny would get for the Floyd fight now as opposed to back in 2010 if he had agreed to the drug test.

    In other words, how many millions did that one punch from JMM cost him? I mean we have to be talking high into the 8 figures, because I think originally they were going to do a 50/50 split.
    It is there fault about what they could have made for not making the fight earlier. They should be happy with the small crumbs they are making now.
    Floyd could still kill the fight, he is slick and canny at the negotiating table. I could see myself saying "Fuck him, does he want the fight or not."
    As far as Floyd is concerned, the negotiations are every bit as important as the fight. The guy wants everything going his way, which can be infuriating. The thing is Floyd has the advantage because everyone wants that big payday.
    I wonder if China is in Floyd's future and what the hell is going on in Khan's mind?
    When Floyd is involved you never know if what you see is the truth. IMO

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    Default Re: It could be close - Arum in talks with Showtime for Floyd /Pacquiao Mega Fight

    This fight has past it's sell by date, if they ever do fight what happens if it turns out to be
    a great disappointment, stranger things have happened.

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    Default Re: It could be close - Arum in talks with Showtime for Floyd /Pacquiao Mega Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Both guys are going to make more money than most athletes could even dream of, but still I have to wonder how much less Manny would get for the Floyd fight now as opposed to back in 2010 if he had agreed to the drug test.

    In other words, how many millions did that one punch from JMM cost him? I mean we have to be talking high into the 8 figures, because I think originally they were going to do a 50/50 split.
    I'd actually rather see a Pac vs JMM 5 over a pac vs mayweather. How much engagement is mayweather actually going to allow before tying pac up? He's not going to let pac bang on his body if he can't get to his head. Surely the counters will work but only one at a time. It will end up being a typically lower than normal punch output mayweather signature fight unless pacquiao finds a way to out work the connects forcing mayweather to increase his connects. No way mayweather turns into a Algieri gazelle. Jmm vs Pac has never failed to keep me on the edge of my seat, standing or freaking jumping.

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    The thing with Pac is everyone focuses on what Pac can do, oh look how fast he is, look how aggressive he is, look how hard he hits. People tend to forget what Floyd does best, and that's making guys miss, making guys pay with counters, dictating pace, strafing guys with lightning fast lead punches and tying guys up when the situation gets too hairy. He does these things better than anyone in boxing.

    Manny struggled hard against JMM 4 times. Floyd is superior to JMM in every category. I don't know what people expect Manny to do. Are people really naive enough to believe he's just going to run at Floyd, throw a flurry and get him out of there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    The thing with Pac is everyone focuses on what Pac can do, oh look how fast he is, look how aggressive he is, look how hard he hits. People tend to forget what Floyd does best, and that's making guys miss, making guys pay with counters, dictating pace, strafing guys with lightning fast lead punches and tying guys up when the situation gets too hairy. He does these things better than anyone in boxing.

    Manny struggled hard against JMM 4 times. Floyd is superior to JMM in every category. I don't know what people expect Manny to do. Are people really naive enough to believe he's just going to run at Floyd, throw a flurry and get him out of there?
    Yeah, I hear you loud and clear, but Manny has surprised us plenty in the past.
    If this fight happens, which most of us have doubts about, it will be exciting. I don't think Floyd will be allowed/able to fight his normal style.
    I'm am definitely not saying Manny would win, I'm just hoping for an exciting fight.
    What the hell, it's better late than never!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post

    Yeah, I hear you loud and clear, but Manny has surprised us plenty in the past.
    If this fight happens, which most of us have doubts about, it will be exciting. I don't think Floyd will be allowed/able to fight his normal style.
    I'm am definitely not saying Manny would win, I'm just hoping for an exciting fight.
    What the hell, it's better late than never!!

    Don't get me wrong, I think it's a tough fight for Floyd and you're 100% right in that Floyd is going to have to change up his usual style and bring his A+ game to the table if he wants to win. Manny is fast, he's southpaw and he hits hard. I just don't see him beating Floyd. I never did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Both guys are going to make more money than most athletes could even dream of, but still I have to wonder how much less Manny would get for the Floyd fight now as opposed to back in 2010 if he had agreed to the drug test.

    In other words, how many millions did that one punch from JMM cost him? I mean we have to be talking high into the 8 figures, because I think originally they were going to do a 50/50 split.
    Floyd was arguing for the lion's share of any future purse split based on their respective PPV numbers for about a year before JMM sparked Manny. The sparking dropped the fight's overall market value and Manny's bargaining position in making the split but for a long time before it happened Floyd would only have accepted the lion's share of the purse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Floyd was arguing for the lion's share of any future purse split based on their respective PPV numbers for about a year before JMM sparked Manny. The sparking dropped the fight's overall market value and Manny's bargaining position in making the split but for a long time before it happened Floyd would only have accepted the lion's share of the purse.
    Floyd did argue for awhile about the purse split, but in the end both camps agreed to a 50/50 split. In the end it fell apart because of the drug testing issue.

    “The only issue was that we asked for the drug testing to take place 14 days before the fight, and everybody agreed on that except Mayweather. So that’s why the fight fell apart. The 50-50 split was never in dispute,” - Bob Arum.

    But you are right, the fight would be huge now but would have been even bigger in 2010 with much more proceeds to share.

    So with that considered too I really have to wonder how much money was lost by Manny for not agreeing to do drug testing that he has since done in a few of his fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Floyd was arguing for the lion's share of any future purse split based on their respective PPV numbers for about a year before JMM sparked Manny. The sparking dropped the fight's overall market value and Manny's bargaining position in making the split but for a long time before it happened Floyd would only have accepted the lion's share of the purse.
    Floyd did argue for awhile about the purse split, but in the end both camps agreed to a 50/50 split. In the end it fell apart because of the drug testing issue.

    “The only issue was that we asked for the drug testing to take place 14 days before the fight, and everybody agreed on that except Mayweather. So that’s why the fight fell apart. The 50-50 split was never in dispute,” - Bob Arum.

    But you are right, the fight would be huge now but would have been even bigger in 2010 with much more proceeds to share.

    So with that considered too I really have to wonder how much money was lost by Manny for not agreeing to do drug testing that he has since done in a few of his fights.
    Between the fight falling apart over drug testing and Manny getting sparked Floyd was making clear that he'd have to have the lion's share due to his PPV numbers being much higher than Manny's.

    If he'd agreed to the testing four years ago he might have won! History would look a lot different than it does now. It might have even stopped Haymon trying to dominate pro boxing amongst other things. We'll never know though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post

    Between the fight falling apart over drug testing and Manny getting sparked Floyd was making clear that he'd have to have the lion's share due to his PPV numbers being much higher than Manny's.

    If he'd agreed to the testing four years ago he might have won! History would look a lot different than it does now. It might have even stopped Haymon trying to dominate pro boxing amongst other things. We'll never know though.
    Yeah we'll never know, they can fight ten times in the next two years and it'll never make up for the fight that got away.

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    Alex ariza spoke the truth 4 years ago and no one listened and he is saying the same thing today...

    Why cant the majority accept this.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Alex ariza spoke the truth 4 years ago and no one listened and he is saying the same thing today...

    Why cant the majority accept this.?

    That worthless POC Ariza has never spoken the truth. He proved what a scumbag he is when he tried to kick Freddie Roach in the chest. Kicking a man that suffers from Parkinsons Syndrome what a jerk.
    I suppose it was Arum's fault Floyd said " My health comes first "

    Floyd sr " I will never let my son fight Paquaio"
    Ariza fits in well with the Mayweathers they are all strangers to the truth
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    Why arent the majority telling pac to leave his slave contract like oscar and floyd did!..too late now anyway.

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