Who can beat Floyd?

[InTheNeutralCorner]

If I felt that I had been ripped off by my promoter for 10 years, and if I feel that that promoter is human garbage who takes advantage of all his fighters, and is complete a complete piece of shit who can be accused of being one of the biggest problems with the sport of boxing, and he still owes me millions of dollars that are still unpaid after 10 years, and if I'm making enough money on my own, then I wouldn't want to give him a penny ever again.

Why is that so hard to understand?

From your response, it appears that that is the only excuse why Floyd doesn't want the fight ... that he hates Bob Arum that much.

Didn't Floyd agree to fight Manny the first time around years ago? Do you mean he didn't hate Bob that much then? Or is it that he did not really intend to fight Manny even then hence the numerous demands?

It'd make more sense to me if I was Floyd to take the fight and beat Manny to take Arums cash cow away and stop him from making money no? Instead he let Pac cash in on more paydays and making Arun more money ? Just a thought..

You Pactard's mental deficiencies never cease to amaze me! How dumb are you?

We discredited your excuse as to why Floyd does not want to fight Manny and you resort to name calling. I didn't even say that Manny is going to win the fight. I believe that Floyd has the advantage in this fight. I just want them to fight.

Try again. Come up with another excuse as to why Floyd doesn't want to fight.

[ruthless rocco]

If I felt that I had been ripped off by my promoter for 10 years, and if I feel that that promoter is human garbage who takes advantage of all his fighters, and is complete a complete piece of shit who can be accused of being one of the biggest problems with the sport of boxing, and he still owes me millions of dollars that are still unpaid after 10 years, and if I'm making enough money on my own, then I wouldn't want to give him a penny ever again.

Why is that so hard to understand?

From your response, it appears that that is the only excuse why Floyd doesn't want the fight ... that he hates Bob Arum that much.

Didn't Floyd agree to fight Manny the first time around years ago? Do you mean he didn't hate Bob that much then? Or is it that he did not really intend to fight Manny even then hence the numerous demands?

It'd make more sense to me if I was Floyd to take the fight and beat Manny to take Arums cash cow away and stop him from making money no? Instead he let Pac cash in on more paydays and making Arun more money ? Just a thought..

You Pactard's mental deficiencies never cease to amaze me! How dumb are you?

We discredited your excuse as to why Floyd does not want to fight Manny and you resort to name calling. I didn't even say that Manny is going to win the fight. I believe that Floyd has the advantage in this fight. I just want them to fight.

Try again. Come up with another excuse as to why Floyd doesn't want to fight.

You discredited my argument? How?

Obviously beating Pac won't "take Pac away from Arum", like you claim. Pacquiaos lost before, a handful of times and he's still with him. He got KTFO by JMM. He looked like he was dead. The guy sitting nearest ring side reached out because he thought Manny's head was gonna roll off his shoulders and land in his lap! (Maybe you missed that fight moron?)

How stupid you must be to think that ANOTHER loss is going to make a difference. You Pactards just type some made up shit and think it's the truth just like Manny believes all Bob's lies. You've found the perfect idol in Pacquiao.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

You discredited my argument? How?

Obviously beating Pac won't "take Pac away from Arum", like you claim. Pacquiaos lost before, a handful of times and he's still with him. He got KTFO by JMM. He looked like he was dead. The guy sitting nearest ring side reached out because he thought Manny's head was gonna roll off his shoulders and land in his lap! (Maybe you missed that fight moron?)

How stupid you must be to think that ANOTHER loss is going to make a difference. You Pactards just type some made up shit and think it's the truth just like Manny believes all Bob's lies. You've found the perfect idol in Pacquiao.

You still have not answered the question. You were implying that Floyd does not want to fight Manny because he hates Bob Arum. Didn't Floyd agree to fight Manny before when Manny was already under Arum? So that excuse is discredited. So why doesn't Floyd want to fight Manny now when he is still at a huge advantage?

Resorting to name calling and trying to discredit the poster does not compensate for your lack of a valid response. Try again.

[ruthless rocco]

You discredited my argument? How?

Obviously beating Pac won't "take Pac away from Arum", like you claim. Pacquiaos lost before, a handful of times and he's still with him. He got KTFO by JMM. He looked like he was dead. The guy sitting nearest ring side reached out because he thought Manny's head was gonna roll off his shoulders and land in his lap! (Maybe you missed that fight moron?)

How stupid you must be to think that ANOTHER loss is going to make a difference. You Pactards just type some made up shit and think it's the truth just like Manny believes all Bob's lies. You've found the perfect idol in Pacquiao.

You still have not answered the question. You were implying that Floyd does not want to fight Manny because he hates Bob Arum. Didn't Floyd agree to fight Manny before when Manny was already under Arum? So that excuse is discredited. So why doesn't Floyd want to fight Manny now when he is still at a huge advantage?

Resorting to name calling and trying to discredit the poster does not compensate for your lack of a valid response. Try again.

I don't think that discredits my answer.

I'm going on what Floyd has stated in the past. He won't fight unless his conditions are met. His conditions were drug testing and no Bob Arum.

I've heard that being said for years. I don't know what else to tell you little Pactard.

[imp]

You discredited my argument? How?

Obviously beating Pac won't "take Pac away from Arum", like you claim. Pacquiaos lost before, a handful of times and he's still with him. He got KTFO by JMM. He looked like he was dead. The guy sitting nearest ring side reached out because he thought Manny's head was gonna roll off his shoulders and land in his lap! (Maybe you missed that fight moron?)

How stupid you must be to think that ANOTHER loss is going to make a difference. You Pactards just type some made up shit and think it's the truth just like Manny believes all Bob's lies. You've found the perfect idol in Pacquiao.

You still have not answered the question. You were implying that Floyd does not want to fight Manny because he hates Bob Arum. Didn't Floyd agree to fight Manny before when Manny was already under Arum? So that excuse is discredited. So why doesn't Floyd want to fight Manny now when he is still at a huge advantage?

Resorting to name calling and trying to discredit the poster does not compensate for your lack of a valid response. Try again.

I don't think that discredits my answer.

I'm going on what Floyd has stated in the past. He won't fight unless his conditions are met. His conditions were drug testing and no Bob Arum.

I've heard that being said for years. I don't know what else to tell you little Pactard.

Bottom line is that your both frustrated and both have valid reasons for this fight not taking place.

If only we were a fly in the meeting to see exactly what was discussed but I have to side with floyd only because he did offer pac 40 million and wanted him to leave bob arum and make more money for both of the fighters..pac not only has bob arum and freddie roach telling him what to do but a rich manager called michael cuntz (kontz)

[Andre]

You discredited my argument? How?

Obviously beating Pac won't "take Pac away from Arum", like you claim. Pacquiaos lost before, a handful of times and he's still with him. He got KTFO by JMM. He looked like he was dead. The guy sitting nearest ring side reached out because he thought Manny's head was gonna roll off his shoulders and land in his lap! (Maybe you missed that fight moron?)

How stupid you must be to think that ANOTHER loss is going to make a difference. You Pactards just type some made up shit and think it's the truth just like Manny believes all Bob's lies. You've found the perfect idol in Pacquiao.

You still have not answered the question. You were implying that Floyd does not want to fight Manny because he hates Bob Arum. Didn't Floyd agree to fight Manny before when Manny was already under Arum? So that excuse is discredited. So why doesn't Floyd want to fight Manny now when he is still at a huge advantage?

Resorting to name calling and trying to discredit the poster does not compensate for your lack of a valid response. Try again.

I don't think that discredits my answer.

I'm going on what Floyd has stated in the past. He won't fight unless his conditions are met. His conditions were drug testing and no Bob Arum.

I've heard that being said for years. I don't know what else to tell you little Pactard.

Bottom line is that your both frustrated and both have valid reasons for this fight not taking place.

If only we were a fly in the meeting to see exactly what was discussed but I have to side with floyd only because he did offer pac 40 million and wanted him to leave bob arum and make more money for both of the fighters..pac not only has bob arum and freddie roach telling him what to do but a rich manager called michael cuntz (kontz)

Might not come off .
A loss to either fighter would mean the end of alot of attention and adulation which adds to asses on future seats, a huge fan base loss. Many so called fight fans would are not actually real fight fans would run from either one of these big names. Its still a big a fight to them both. They've both got books to write and a load of collectors and fan boy hands to shake yet.

[ruthless rocco]

Hey Pactards. This video is worth watching.
In case you don't know, this is the man that made your fighter the KO king that he used to be when he was full of PEDs.
He has some insight into why Pacquiao/Mayweather was never made.
Spoiler: it has nothing to do with Floyd.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

You discredited my argument? How?

Obviously beating Pac won't "take Pac away from Arum", like you claim. Pacquiaos lost before, a handful of times and he's still with him. He got KTFO by JMM. He looked like he was dead. The guy sitting nearest ring side reached out because he thought Manny's head was gonna roll off his shoulders and land in his lap! (Maybe you missed that fight moron?)

How stupid you must be to think that ANOTHER loss is going to make a difference. You Pactards just type some made up shit and think it's the truth just like Manny believes all Bob's lies. You've found the perfect idol in Pacquiao.

You still have not answered the question. You were implying that Floyd does not want to fight Manny because he hates Bob Arum. Didn't Floyd agree to fight Manny before when Manny was already under Arum? So that excuse is discredited. So why doesn't Floyd want to fight Manny now when he is still at a huge advantage?

Resorting to name calling and trying to discredit the poster does not compensate for your lack of a valid response. Try again.

I don't think that discredits my answer.

I'm going on what Floyd has stated in the past. He won't fight unless his conditions are met. His conditions were drug testing and no Bob Arum.

I've heard that being said for years. I don't know what else to tell you little Pactard.

'No Bob Arum' is not one of Floyd's demands when the initial negotiation for the fight took place a few years ago. You coming up with this puts a bad light on Mayweather because this tends to imply that he really is not interested in the fight. Manny is under contract with Bob Arum and there is no way around this. That single demand would have killed the fight so why the need for the other demands. Not unless you have a link that you can show us, get your fact straight.

You should not always believe what you hear. Sometimes, you'll have to verify it from a reliable source.

[ruthless rocco]

'No Bob Arum' is not one of Floyd's demands when the initial negotiation for the fight took place a few years ago. You coming up with this puts a bad light on Mayweather because this tends to imply that he really is not interested in the fight. Manny is under contract with Bob Arum and there is no way around this. That single demand would have killed the fight so why the need for the other demands. Not unless you have a link that you can show us, get your fact straight.

You should not always believe what you hear. Sometimes, you'll have to verify it from a reliable source.

From the very detailed Wikipedia entry on the fight: The Telegraph reported on December 20, 2013, that Mayweather said Pacquiao’s association with promoter Bob Arum is the reason why the bout will not happen. "We all know the Pacquiao fight, at this particular time, will never happen, and the reason why the fight won't happen is because I will never do business with Bob Arum again in life, and Pacquiao is Bob Arum's fighter," Mayweather said.

If you read the entire Wikipedia entry on the details of the fight negotiations, you'll see that Arum lied about negotiations on a number of occasions. He claimed he had been in talks with people that he hadn't been in talks with. He seems to lie all the time. No one would know this better than Floyd, who had him as a promoter for 10 years. Arum still owes Floyd millions of dollars for the Gatti and Judah fights. I assume Floyd got tired of Arum's constant lying and bullshitting to reporters and the general public and decided that he would never do business with the man again. That's his right. He doesn't need Arum to be the highest paid athlete in the world.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

From the very detailed Wikipedia entry on the fight: The Telegraph reported on December 20, 2013, that Mayweather said Pacquiao’s association with promoter Bob Arum is the reason why the bout will not happen. "We all know the Pacquiao fight, at this particular time, will never happen, and the reason why the fight won't happen is because I will never do business with Bob Arum again in life, and Pacquiao is Bob Arum's fighter," Mayweather said.

If you read the entire Wikipedia entry on the details of the fight negotiations, you'll see that Arum lied about negotiations on a number of occasions. He claimed he had been in talks with people that he hadn't been in talks with. He seems to lie all the time. No one would know this better than Floyd, who had him as a promoter for 10 years. Arum still owes Floyd millions of dollars for the Gatti and Judah fights. I assume Floyd got tired of Arum's constant lying and bullshitting to reporters and the general public and decided that he would never do business with the man again. That's his right. He doesn't need Arum to be the highest paid athlete in the world.

Come on, who uses Wikipedia as a reliable source of information. And if Floyd did say this, you are giving too much credibility to it. If it is to be believed that Mayweather isn't going to do business with Arum again in life, then how come that negotiation took several months. Manny has always been with Arum all those times. The negotiation should not even have started since Manny is with Arum. But that didn't happen, did it?