US snow storms

[walrus]

American and China just agreed to cut emissions. Another triumph for Obama.

America stupidly agreed to cut emissions right away whereas China will wait a few years if they bother to act at all....but yeah "triumph for Obama"


Al Gore is an idiot, plain and simple

China actually won't do anything until 2030

China have to start cutting emissions then. But they can't increase emissions as much as they would otherwise have done between then and now. They were going to be building one gigantic (100 000 tons of CO2 a day pumped into the atmosphere) coal=powered station every year till 2050 and they've now abandoned those plans. They're going for wind and solar.

There have been major advances in solar technology and also battery storage capabilities and we're expecting solar power generation costs to ahieve parity with coal by 2020 and batteries capable of efficiently storing domestic-produced solar energy in ten years or less. A carbon tax or even a decent cap and trade policy would create funds to boost this and other energy innovation and speed it along so that we can transition our economies out of hydrocarbons asap. Unfortunately we have a bunch of fucking idiots funded by fossil fuel firms trying to keep things like they are.

There are uncontrolled underground coal mine fires burning all over China. These fires emit more co2 into the atmosphere than the US.

[El Kabong]

There are uncontrolled underground coal mine fires burning all over China. These fires emit more co2 into the atmosphere than the US.

True....but we must face facts, the Chinese are not white and therefore have no white guilt.....REPENT MY BROTHERS FOR THE END IS NEAR!!!!

[Xwetie]

Am i the only one who think global warming is good? It suppose to be warmer for each year!

[Master]

Am i the only one who think global warming is good? It suppose to be warmer for each year!

Could have fooled me. It is freezing here every year.

[Kirkland Laing]

American and China just agreed to cut emissions. Another triumph for Obama.

America stupidly agreed to cut emissions right away whereas China will wait a few years if they bother to act at all....but yeah "triumph for Obama"


Al Gore is an idiot, plain and simple

China actually won't do anything until 2030

China have to start cutting emissions then. But they can't increase emissions as much as they would otherwise have done between then and now. They were going to be building one gigantic (100 000 tons of CO2 a day pumped into the atmosphere) coal=powered station every year till 2050 and they've now abandoned those plans. They're going for wind and solar.

There have been major advances in solar technology and also battery storage capabilities and we're expecting solar power generation costs to ahieve parity with coal by 2020 and batteries capable of efficiently storing domestic-produced solar energy in ten years or less. A carbon tax or even a decent cap and trade policy would create funds to boost this and other energy innovation and speed it along so that we can transition our economies out of hydrocarbons asap. Unfortunately we have a bunch of fucking idiots funded by fossil fuel firms trying to keep things like they are.

There are uncontrolled underground coal mine fires burning all over China. These fires emit more co2 into the atmosphere than the US.

By some standards, the issue of underground coal fires may seem trivial and even futile. While 80% of China’s carbon emissions come from burning coal, the amount of those emissions from underground coal fires is miniscule in comparison with the output of the country’s coal-fired power plants, which generate twice as many CO2 emissions as the United States’. On top of that, “there are cheaper ways to cut emissions” than extinguishing coal fires, says Kuenzer, citing the enormous expense and limited resources for addressing fires in mining regions, as well as the fires’ tenacity. “The problem of coal fires will only vanish when the mineable coal is all gone,” she says.

https://www.chinadialogue.net/articl...s-unseen-story


Under the new deal they made with the Obama regime Chinahave to replace 20% of their coal-fired power stations with zero carbon power generation by 2030. They've already started doing it and have scrapped plans to build giant coal-fired plants all the way to 2050. They're going to be cutting on an ongoing basis from now till 2030 -- they can't just replace 20% in December 2029. And before we get to 2030 there'll be more climate deals and new technologies that solve most or all of the problem.