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    Default Re: What Era had the Most Talented HeavyWeights?

    So in essence and based on the criteria of seen little or none, by extension,


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    Default Re: What Era had the Most Talented HeavyWeights?

    Tunney was a skilled boxer, that video clip shows that! Tunney was fighting a old but still fierce Dempsey and handles him with ease. What more do you need to see?
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    Default Re: What Era had the Most Talented HeavyWeights?

    Either what might be termed the Klitschko era, or what might be termed the Lewis/Holyfield era.

    Tyson himself was spectcular in the 80's in his own right but the other 80's opponents were lack lustre.

    Apart from Foreman and Holmes who debuted at earlier times, there was nothing special about any previous HW's from a strictly performance perspective. Maybe from an historical one.

    Today, more than at any other time, the fight can be ended with just a single punch, the blows are so hard.
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    Default Re: What Era had the Most Talented HeavyWeights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Either what might be termed the Klitschko era, or what might be termed the Lewis/Holyfield era.

    Tyson himself was spectcular in the 80's in his own right but the other 80's opponents were lack lustre.

    Apart from Foreman and Holmes who debuted at earlier times, there was nothing special about any previous HW's from a strictly performance perspective. Maybe from an historical one.

    Today, more than at any other time, the fight can be ended with just a single punch, the blows are so hard.
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    Default Re: What Era had the Most Talented HeavyWeights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Either what might be termed the Klitschko era, or what might be termed the Lewis/Holyfield era.

    Tyson himself was spectcular in the 80's in his own right but the other 80's opponents were lack lustre.

    Apart from Foreman and Holmes who debuted at earlier times, there was nothing special about any previous HW's from a strictly performance perspective. Maybe from an historical one.

    Today, more than at any other time, the fight can be ended with just a single punch, the blows are so hard.
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    Default Re: What Era had the Most Talented HeavyWeights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tunney was a skilled boxer, that video clip shows that! Tunney was fighting a old but still fierce Dempsey and handles him with ease. What more do you need to see?
    I don't need to see anything, I never said Tunney wasn't a skilled boxer. I'm wondering what he does better than Wlad.

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    Default Re: What Era had the Most Talented HeavyWeights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tunney was a skilled boxer, that video clip shows that! Tunney was fighting a old but still fierce Dempsey and handles him with ease. What more do you need to see?
    I don't need to see anything, I never said Tunney wasn't a skilled boxer. I'm wondering what he does better than Wlad.
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    Default Re: What Era had the Most Talented HeavyWeights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tunney was a skilled boxer, that video clip shows that! Tunney was fighting a old but still fierce Dempsey and handles him with ease. What more do you need to see?
    I don't need to see anything, I never said Tunney wasn't a skilled boxer. I'm wondering what he does better than Wlad.
    Not get knocked out for a start.
    In heavyweight boxing, even the best fighters lose sometimes and get knocked out sometimes. Only a very few ever escape this fate.

    Does it lessen any of them? OF course not! What your basically claiming here is that guys like Dempsey/Marciano are better than all the other champs that did get knocked out.

    Completely ignoring the fact that these 2 boxers in particular fought in the war eras where the talent took a MASSIVE dive, and neither man ever even FOUGHT a decent 200+ HW, let alone beat one!

    Want to know what would happen if Puritty or Sanders got unleashed against Jack Dempsey?

    Purrity would score a touch down.
    And Sanders would land a hole in one!

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    Default Re: What Era had the Most Talented HeavyWeights?

    Greynotsoold said other than the size the skill of these fighters like Wlad were not on par with Tunney.

    You bring sanders and purity into this just shows the stupidity of your argument. What skill do they have compared to Tunney.
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    Default Re: What Era had the Most Talented HeavyWeights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Greynotsoold said other than the size the skill of these fighters like Wlad were not on par with Tunney.

    You bring sanders and purity into this just shows the stupidity of your argument. What skill do they have compared to Tunney.
    Sanders is more skilled than Tunney. He has exceptional handspeed and snaky short southpaw inside shots. Sanders is actually a very good boxer, let down only by his conditioning at times.

    Puritty is nothing special in the skills department at all, a convert from Gridiron. But Puritty is so strong and powerful there's no contest.

    Neither would ever be allowed to knock out Tunney, no fans would ever see them knock out Tunney, they'd both be accused of a disgusting mismatch were they allowed to, and in effect, they would knock Tunney out with the first connected square punch! And brush off anything from Tunney as if it were nothing.

    As for Wladimir, your trying to compare the most perfected technical style of all time by far to a crude drunken-style light HW boxer from 100 years ago?

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    Default Re: What Era had the Most Talented HeavyWeights?

    Max what are you talking about?

    Tunney 191lb v Kovolev 175lb and you think Kov wins!

    You are a contradiction.

    You say these old heavyweights are too small for the heavyweights today yet James Toney, Roy Jones and Chris Byrd can beat them.

    Make up your mind.
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    Default Re: What Era had the Most Talented HeavyWeights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Max what are you talking about?

    Tunney 191lb v Kovolev 175lb and you think Kov wins!

    You are a contradiction.

    You say these old heavyweights are too small for the heavyweights today yet James Toney, Roy Jones and Chris Byrd can beat them.

    Make up your mind.
    Agreed. I didn't even question Rjj vs Tunney.

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    Default Re: What Era had the Most Talented HeavyWeights?

    Yeah but Tunney weighed in at 191 without cutting weight, that was his real weight.

    Kovalev cuts weight, weights in at 175 and then goes back up to 190, so they're pretty much the same weight.

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    Default Re: What Era had the Most Talented HeavyWeights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Yeah but Tunney weighed in at 191 without cutting weight, that was his real weight.

    Kovalev cuts weight, weights in at 175 and then goes back up to 190, so they're pretty much the same weight.
    Do you think Kov beats Tunney?
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    Default Re: What Era had the Most Talented HeavyWeights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Yeah but Tunney weighed in at 191 without cutting weight, that was his real weight.

    Kovalev cuts weight, weights in at 175 and then goes back up to 190, so they're pretty much the same weight.
    Do you think Kov beats Tunney?
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