Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
Are we talking up Ray "The Rainman" Austin here??

I saw the fight.
If I were defending Wlad's record, I'd leave Rainman out of the argument.


Also, I know encyclopedic sources are generally frowned upon around here, but.....
Admittedly, not having been a big "Rainman" follower during his forgettable career, I must resort to Wikipedia for this sort of thing.

So..... weren't there 3 defeats in Rainman's record when he "fought" (and I use the term loosely) Wladimir?
Including one by knockout?

Someone enlighten me how this somehow constitutes an undefeated record.

Er.. That was my bad. Sorry yes, Ray was not undefeated I made huge mistake. It was his opponent Ibragimov that was undefeated.

Anyway I was not bringing up Austin to promote HIS quality, merely that because him and Wladimir are the same size, obviously Wladimir possesses something else besides size to win.

Some guys try to claim that I ONLY use size in arguments.