David Haye discusses next move with Vitali Klitschko over breakfast

[ross]

Weird these two having breakfast together....i smell a Haye masterplan attempt where me might just leapfrog (blag) the entire division and get a fight with Wlad or even drag Vitali out of retirement.

Money talks and Haye is still the biggest draw in the division whether you like it or not and would easily bring the most money to either brother.

Wonder what the topic for discussion was..................

This will not be a popular opinion. But I think it was the truth.

Toward the end there, I think David Haye was the 2nd best HW in the world. I think he would have beaten Vitali, who slowed down quite a bit at his 40's.

If Haye can return to the same form he displayed in camp last year and last fights then he'd still have him beat.

I think Haye vs Wladimir would still be the most competitive fight possible given that Haye can avoid injury.

They SAY that the first fight was a stinker and it's true that Haye did not take enough chances. But then again I ALSO don't call it dominance from Wladimir when he was missing the target!

I can't blame Haye for being tentative with Wladimir, there's no use rocking up there to be layed out on the canvas. But I think he COULD do much better and win far more rounds than he was given credit in the first encounter.

I would definitely want watch Haye/Klitschko 2. The fight wasn't that boring anyway. In fact it had some of the fastest reflexes ever seen in a HW fight of all time and is a testament to technical superiority of both fighters.

It will just never be as action packed as say, Riddick Bowe vs Evander Holyfield or a Mike Tyson KO compilation.

[imp]

Whether you like haye or not he is still one of the best three heavyweights in the world today.

Now get back in the ring and start making history..

[OMGWTF]

The Klitchkos should have nothing to do with Haye after how he slandered them.

Their choice. Would be a fun watch, Haye is dangerous to anyone though, its not a smart move for your legacy. Even though the klitchos are better than Hyae and most likely to win I don't like the risk Haye poses with his skill and punching power he might scab a lucky win and make the klitchkos look bad.

[Max Power]

The Klitchkos should have nothing to do with Haye after how he slandered them.

Their choice. Would be a fun watch, Haye is dangerous to anyone though, its not a smart move for your legacy. Even though the klitchos are better than Hyae and most likely to win I don't like the risk Haye poses with his skill and punching power he might scab a lucky win and make the klitchkos look bad.

What an idiotic statement!

Fighting a dangerous+skilled opponent is BAD for your legacy now?

@Master and the rest of the nostalgic community will jump all over this sort of comment!

Wladimir CAN and SHOULD fight the best available opposition. If he's really that good, he will win.

I'm understanding of modern HW's not taking unnecessary risks DURING risky fights.

But I DO believe they have to TAKE the risky fights! Otherwise there is no claim to greatness at all if you merely cherry pick easy opponents!

Brains of a chicken mate!

[ross]

Whether you like haye or not he is still one of the best three heavyweights in the world today.

Now get back in the ring and start making history..

You lot will never learn...

How many fights has he had scheduled over the last 2.5 years and how many has he won?

[Max Power]

Whether you like haye or not he is still one of the best three heavyweights in the world today.

Now get back in the ring and start making history..

You lot will never learn...

How many fights has he had scheduled over the last 2.5 years and how many has he won?

Don't be stupid, he smashed up the HW division when he arrived and only lost to bloody Klitschko by UD.

The only reason we even still consider Fury a viable threat today is because of the GIFT withdrawal from Haye. Fury has Haye to thank for his continued marketability.

[ross]

Whether you like haye or not he is still one of the best three heavyweights in the world today.

Now get back in the ring and start making history..

You lot will never learn...

How many fights has he had scheduled over the last 2.5 years and how many has he won?

Don't be stupid, he smashed up the HW division when he arrived and only lost to bloody Klitschko by UD.

The only reason we even still consider Fury a viable threat today is because of the GIFT withdrawal from Haye. Fury has Haye to thank for his continued marketability.

Smashed up the division!!

Who has he beaten at heavy?

The only decent fighter he had beaten at heavy was Chisora. Thats it. The same fighter Fury has been criticised for rematching. Oh! Why did he have to resort to rematching Chisora? Who pulled out twice against Fury?

Haye had loads of top matches he could have fought at heavy like Adamek, Arreola, Chambers, Povetkin, Chagaev, Peter etc, etc.

Hes not even been THE heavyweight champion, something you would think you should do if you want to "smash" the division. The closest chance he had he lost every roumd and was warned for crawling on the floor

Also, Haye is lucky he didn't go through with the Tyson fight as he would be proper retired instead of ambiguously talking about retirement and being quiet until the dust had settled.

[Master]

Ignore him @ross he thinks Haye still has a career and is relevant now when he is clearly not.

[nuggetdotcom]

[QUOTE=ross;1287917]

Whether you like haye or not he is still one of the best three heavyweights in the world today.

Now get back in the ring and start making history..

You lot will never learn...

How many fights has he had scheduled over the last 2.5 years and how many has he won?

Don't be stupid, he smashed up the HW division when he arrived and only lost to bloody Klitschko by UD.

The only reason we even still consider Fury a viable threat today is because of the GIFT withdrawal from Haye. Fury has Haye to thank for his continued marketability.

Smashed up the division!!

Who has he beaten at heavy?

The only decent fighter he had beaten at heavy was Chisora. Thats it. The same fighter Fury has been criticised for rematching. Oh! Why did he have to resort to rematching Chisora? Who pulled out twice against Fury?

Haye had loads of top matches he could have fought at heavy like Adamek, Arreola, Chambers, Povetkin, Chagaev, Peter etc, etc.

Hes not even been THE heavyweight champion, something you would think you should do if you want to "smash" the division. The closest chance he had he lost every roumd and was warned for crawling on the floor

Also, Haye is lucky he didn't go through with the Tyson fight as he would be proper retired instead of ambiguously talking about retirement and being quiet until the dust had settled.[/QU



Sorry. but I thought Haye won the WBA title at heavyweight?

[erics44]

Whether you like haye or not he is still one of the best three heavyweights in the world today.

Now get back in the ring and start making history..

You lot will never learn...

How many fights has he had scheduled over the last 2.5 years and how many has he won?

Don't be stupid, he smashed up the HW division when he arrived and only lost to bloody Klitschko by UD.

The only reason we even still consider Fury a viable threat today is because of the GIFT withdrawal from Haye. Fury has Haye to thank for his continued marketability.

I have to agree with this

Haye would have beaten fury, fury is still considered a viable option for the klit because hate pulled out

It couldn't have ended any better for fury

[imp]

Whether you like haye or not he is still one of the best three heavyweights in the world today.

Now get back in the ring and start making history..

You lot will never learn...

How many fights has he had scheduled over the last 2.5 years and how many has he won?

Ross,

Its true.

Whether haye has taken a break or not he is still in the top 3.

We dont have to like him but has the potential to bother anyone and once fit he will be back in the mix.