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The fact is, Hayes whole heavyweight career is just a mirage.

Holyfield looked more convincing against Valuev than Haye did. Catching him with one shot in the last round does not win a fight.

Chisora had 3 losses and his first was to Tyson the credit he gets here is because Chisora was the only fighter he fought that was younger than him (at heavy). Like I said and like everyone knows there were plenty of other fights out there to be made rather than ripping everyone off against Harrison, Ruiz and Barrett (who dropped Haye).

His fight against Wlad was over 3 years ago! He wont have improved. He looked like shit before Chisora gave him his chin on a plate. Contrast that to the man who beat him easily looking his sharpest in his last fight against supposedly the next best in the division. The kind of fighter Haye would have avoided.

I remember a few gullible people jumping on Hayes retirement bandwagon and me saying those same people will all be mugs and get taken in by him again and totally ignore the way he avoided and still does a Fury fight. Hes been asked a few times and gives no credible reply, saying crap like he doesnt deserve a pay day (why sign in the first place?) and not until he beats Wlad. When Fury beats Wlad Haye will sulk like fuck because Fury would have blown Hayes career out of the water

The fact is that Haye could not chance and then live with a loss to Fury as it makes his career look shit because the general consensus which is false is that Fury is crap. He saw what I see. That Tyson is huge, can move, has excellent stamina and can punch and is going to be a difficult animal to beat. It was a gamble that he was going to catch him before he started tiring or got caught himself. It was and still is, too much of a risk to his legacy.
Listen mate, David Haye, at 210 or so lbs, rocked up to the HW division and was out-talled and out-weighed massively! His opponents were good fighters too. And he WASTED them.

Funny, I never seen Holyfield start whacking around all the giant boxers like HE was the big guy!

Nobody has produced the kind of performances like David Haye has ever from Cruiser. He carried his punch like no other, and is in effect, among the fastest and most slickest HW's of all time!

That is a fact^^ undeniable even if you hate him.
Are you joking?

Who were these amazing heavyweights Haye beat?

The 46 year old Holyfield looked better against Valuev than Haye did!!
I seen both fights, objectively that isn't the case. Holyfield lost a decision in a fairly even fight that could have been a draw. Haye clearly beat Valuev.

Monte Barrett 6'3" 226lbs 34-6
Nikolai Valuev 7'0" 316lbs 50-1
John Ruiz 6'2" 231lbs 44-8
Audley Harrison 6'6" 254lbs 27-4
Dereck Chisora 6'2" 247lbs 15-3

All were knocked out except Valuev, the one with the best record, the champion and the greatest weight difference in any championship boxing match of all time.

All of them were solid opponents with non-bummy records and much bigger than Haye and with far more HW experience.

No other boxer has ever stepped up to the HW division and beaten/KOed this class and calibre of opposition except Holyfield!