Gene Tunney is not an all time great HW

[Master]

Will you two girls get a room and stop making this stuff up.

Dempsey and Tunney champions in their time.

Golden era of boxing in terms of mainstream appeal in the Us.

[Bill Paxtom]

Gene Tunney

"I'm smart first, and a boxer second."

[Beanflicker]

Will you two girls get a room and stop making this stuff up.

Dempsey and Tunney champions in their time.

Golden era of boxing in terms of mainstream appeal in the Us.

What am I making up, ya'll need to read "A Flame of Pure Fire", which is a pro-Dempsey book but outlines a lot of the stupid shit he was up to.

It's fine to like those old times, everyone was wearing a suit and a top hat, cool whatever, but you have to acknowledge the fact that these punks belonged to the "Boy's Club" at the time which feasted on bums and conveniently excluded black fighters.

[Master]

I was on about Max saying Kov would knock Dempsey and Tunney out and Ward beating them as well.

[Beanflicker]

I was on about Max saying Kov would knock Dempsey and Tunney out and Ward beating them as well.

He's 100% right. Ward is twice the fighter either of those guys were. Tunney got whipped and given hell a few times by a middleweight, I don't see why Ward couldn't do the same thing.

And Kov is a better puncher than Dempsey was.

[Master]

I was on about Max saying Kov would knock Dempsey and Tunney out and Ward beating them as well.

He's 100% right. Ward is twice the fighter either of those guys were. Tunney got whipped and given hell a few times by a middleweight, I don't see why Ward couldn't do the same thing.

And Kov is a better puncher than Dempsey was.

Who whipped Tunney twice?

Kov is a good puncher but Dempsey was vicious.

[Max Power]

I was on about Max saying Kov would knock Dempsey and Tunney out and Ward beating them as well.

He's 100% right. Ward is twice the fighter either of those guys were. Tunney got whipped and given hell a few times by a middleweight, I don't see why Ward couldn't do the same thing.

And Kov is a better puncher than Dempsey was.

Who whipped Tunney twice?

Kov is a good puncher but Dempsey was vicious.

Dempsey was scary for the day, but he was scared of black fighters himself, and heavy+decent guys too.

Kovalev is scary now!

[Beanflicker]

Who whipped Tunney twice?

Kov is a good puncher but Dempsey was vicious.

Greb beat him once and was robbed at least once, the consensus was he got robbed in at least one of Tunney's wins. Harry Greb was 5'8'' and weighed 168 without cutting weight. Andre is 6'0'' and probably walks around 180-190, so he was about the same size as Tunney. Of course this is as hypothetical as a match gets, because they fought almost 100 years apart and as we know Tunney refused to fight blacks.

Kovalev has much better technique and more one-punch power than Dempsey ever had. Dempsey was not a smart guy - he chewed pine tar to strengthen his jaw for fucks sake. He was borderline retarded.

[Max Power]

Who whipped Tunney twice?

Kov is a good puncher but Dempsey was vicious.

Greb beat him once and was robbed at least once, the consensus was he got robbed in at least one of Tunney's wins. Harry Greb was 5'8'' and weighed 168 without cutting weight. Andre is 6'0'' and probably walks around 180-190, so he was about the same size as Tunney. Of course this is as hypothetical as a match gets, because they fought almost 100 years apart and as we know Tunney refused to fight blacks.

Kovalev has much better technique and more one-punch power than Dempsey ever had. Dempsey was not a smart guy - he chewed pine tar to strengthen his jaw for fucks sake. He was borderline retarded.

Second all of that..

Especially "Dempsey was not a smart guy - he chewed pine tar to strengthen his jaw for fucks sake. He was borderline retarded"

LOL You can't buy quotes that good!

[Max Power]

I was on about Max saying Kov would knock Dempsey and Tunney out and Ward beating them as well.

On what grounds do you think an in form Ward could not outbox those guys?

On what grounds do you think those guys could survive a fight with Kovalev?