Mayweather was full of sh*t tonight bashing Pacman on Showtime...

[Beanz]

Last night was pitiful. I have stuck up for Floyd through thick and thin but nothing unless one is a cult member can be more obvious then the fact that Floyd does not want any. @#1FightFan is spot on and calling him an idiot is not evidence to the contrary. Put whatever metaphoric spin you want on it and call it what you will but after all the evidence is in even a remedial objective onlooker has to come to the conclusion that Floyd simply does not want the fight.

Last nights little tirade was embarrassing. Bringing up the testing like its still an issue and then saying Manny does not deserve 40% cause he lost twice and throwing in a "he's not on my level"

Sorta like Maidana I guess. The man does not want to fight him. Simple as that. Pretending that the ball is now in Mannys court is hilarious.

Manny go around claiming Floyd is afraid of him and ducking him, he can make commercials making fun of Mayweather and insinuating Mayweather is ducking him... but Floyd isn't allowed to defend himself and bring up the actual fact, the actual reason why the fight didn't happen? Where's the logic there?

There's two camps on this who tirade, and it's not Team Mayweather vs Team Pac... it's people who want to work with facts, and people who want to work with biased, baseless conjecture.

I stay true to the "Fact" group, I put out the facts and if I'm using person conjecture, I preface it as such. This is what logical people do.

The people in the second group spout the same rhetoric, ignore the facts, jump to conclusions, talk about things they have no knowledge of or didn't bother to research, and generally offer no insight or valuable thought to the discussion. It's the same old shit, they have their story and they are sticking to it, facts be damned.

Floyd and Pac/Freitas/Casamayor/Margarito/ect never fought. CONCLUSION: Floyd was terrified of those guys, refused to fight them, and hid under his bed until there was no longer a call to fight them. It's like talking to 10 year olds with a lot of these guys.

Bottom line: There is no logical, intelligent person who is knowledgable of the situation who believes Floyd ducked Pac.

Just because you say something it does not lend it some kind of gravitas or credence. Both you and Rocco have made your mind up and are so unwilling to countenance any other opinion that you have both for some time now completely dismissed anyone who does not agree, with this dumb "you are all Pac Nuthuggers" rubbish. Most fight fans are not so tribal when it comes to this fight. It would have been a great fight but it hasn't happened and now Floyd, who is supposedly in total control of his own destiny, is gloating about it not happening as though it's something to admire him for

There are a lot of people who do not subscribe to your point of view and calling them all 10 year olds till your blue in the face is not going to make them all jump in your boat. You have never once been rational when discussing Floyd, so I don't expect you to start now.

[AdamGB]

Mayweather does have a point... Youtube/facebook seem to be full of people who will swallow manny's shit, but not even begin to question Manny flip flopping over drug tests or manny knowing fine well how hard getting mayweather to work with arum would be, but renewing with him anyway instead of removing him from the equation.

Both parties are at fault, sheeple seem to follow only one.

[ruthless rocco]

Just because you say something it does not lend it some kind of gravitas or credence. Both you and Rocco have made your mind up and are so unwilling to countenance any other opinion that you have both for some time now completely dismissed anyone who does not agree, with this dumb "you are all Pac Nuthuggers" rubbish. Most fight fans are not so tribal when it comes to this fight. It would have been a great fight but it hasn't happened and now Floyd, who is supposedly in total control of his own destiny, is gloating about it not happening as though it's something to admire him for

There are a lot of people who do not subscribe to your point of view and calling them all 10 year olds till your blue in the face is not going to make them all jump in your boat. You have never once been rational when discussing Floyd, so I don't expect you to start now.

1- I say Pactards not nuthuggers. I don't care about your sex life but I am amused by how stupid many of you guys are.

2- it's you're not your.

3- as in control of his own destiny as Floyd may be, he can't make Manny agree to fight him if Manny and Arum don't want the fight to happen.

3- if you don't expect us to be rational, why bother addressing us in posts.

[Andre]

Just because you say something it does not lend it some kind of gravitas or credence. Both you and Rocco have made your mind up and are so unwilling to countenance any other opinion that you have both for some time now completely dismissed anyone who does not agree, with this dumb "you are all Pac Nuthuggers" rubbish. Most fight fans are not so tribal when it comes to this fight. It would have been a great fight but it hasn't happened and now Floyd, who is supposedly in total control of his own destiny, is gloating about it not happening as though it's something to admire him for

There are a lot of people who do not subscribe to your point of view and calling them all 10 year olds till your blue in the face is not going to make them all jump in your boat. You have never once been rational when discussing Floyd, so I don't expect you to start now.

1- I say Pactards not nuthuggers. I don't care about your sex life but I am amused by how stupid many of you guys are.

2- it's you're not your.

3- as in control of his own destiny as Floyd may be, he can't make Manny agree to fight him if Manny and Arum don't want the fight to happen.

3- if you don't expect us to be rational, why bother addressing us in posts.

Im read it; Stop the name calling its like kindergarten, address the points at hand and cease the emotional bullshit.

GB could now come back with counter points including 4: it is meant to be 4 not 3 repeated, but that would be like correcting punctuation.

4 could also be :If you dont expect us to be irrational,why bother addressing us in posts?

3 Is bang on the money.

[Beanz]

Just because you say something it does not lend it some kind of gravitas or credence. Both you and Rocco have made your mind up and are so unwilling to countenance any other opinion that you have both for some time now completely dismissed anyone who does not agree, with this dumb "you are all Pac Nuthuggers" rubbish. Most fight fans are not so tribal when it comes to this fight. It would have been a great fight but it hasn't happened and now Floyd, who is supposedly in total control of his own destiny, is gloating about it not happening as though it's something to admire him for

There are a lot of people who do not subscribe to your point of view and calling them all 10 year olds till your blue in the face is not going to make them all jump in your boat. You have never once been rational when discussing Floyd, so I don't expect you to start now.

1- I say Pactards not nuthuggers. I don't care about your sex life but I am amused by how stupid many of you guys are.

2- it's you're not your.

3- as in control of his own destiny as Floyd may be, he can't make Manny agree to fight him if Manny and Arum don't want the fight to happen.

3- if you don't expect us to be rational, why bother addressing us in posts.

2. Actually it is your and not you're

"Both you and Rocco have made your mind up" is not served well with a contraction of you are.

"Both you and Rocco have made you are mind up"

I should perhaps have used the plural for mind, but unlike my day job, I am not paid to write here and it's seems that even allocating one mind between you, is me on my part, being somewhat over generous.

[ruthless rocco]

@Greenbeanz

"...till your blue in the face..."

[Beanz]

@Greenbeanz

"...till your blue in the face..."

I am Green. I will never be blue in the face.

[ruthless rocco]

@Greenbeanz

"...till your blue in the face..."

I am Green. I will never be blue in the face.

Haha!

[Beanflicker]

Just because you say something it does not lend it some kind of gravitas or credence. Both you and Rocco have made your mind up and are so unwilling to countenance any other opinion that you have both for some time now completely dismissed anyone who does not agree, with this dumb "you are all Pac Nuthuggers" rubbish. Most fight fans are not so tribal when it comes to this fight. It would have been a great fight but it hasn't happened and now Floyd, who is supposedly in total control of his own destiny, is gloating about it not happening as though it's something to admire him for

There are a lot of people who do not subscribe to your point of view and calling them all 10 year olds till your blue in the face is not going to make them all jump in your boat. You have never once been rational when discussing Floyd, so I don't expect you to start now.

Nobody has proven me wrong with any reasoning or logic. They never do.