Will there ever be another Roy Jones?

[greynotsoold]

IMO there willl always be great fghters every so often, but it wil be unique to their own heavan-given talents.

There will only be one Ray Robinson.
One Joe Louis
One Rocky Marciano
One Cassius Clay
One Pernell Whittaker
One Julio Cesar Chavez
One Roy Jones Jr .
& Yes, one Floyd Mayweather who has won 18 years, without a loss added to his record, never dropped to a knee or on his back, just a standing 8 from a glove scraping the canvas.

Even though RJJ has several high profile names he didnt fight, & was dropped by Honey Boy Devalle in his prime, there hasnt been a reflex master with twitch muscle movement like his IMO, 4 left hooks in a row!!! Freak like talents.

No there will never be anothr RJJ, but there will be other greats to come!

I can throw 4 left hooks in a row, always have been able to do that, since I was 12 or 13, and I'm 50 now. I once saw Schoolboy Ramirez- he was 66-10 at the time- throw more than 40 left hand punches in a row in a fight at the Forum.
That said, when you talk about RJJ, you don't pick the right things to be impressed by (4 hooks in a row is easy) but you don't see how he cheated himself. He had tremendous natural gifts and the chances of those being replicated by somebody that chooses to exercise them in the same way are slim. Those gifts led him to ignore the basics, after a point because there is no denying that his father schooled him well, and that cost him later.
As to if he was the 'greatest', no, no way. Ezzard Charles fought from 160 to HW and he'd beat Jones all the way, so would guys like Conn, or Burley or Moore, and others. It is just silly- just makes me laugh- the 'he was the fastest ever' nonsense. Have you seen everybody else? There were no fast guys before? Heavens...And, you know, smart guys neutralize your gifts. RJJ was so concerned with his gifts that he never learned that, and he fought mostly dumb guys and old guys.
I have thought for years now that Toney thought Jones would be easy, and he was struggling with weight and didn't worry enough. Then he got in the ring, knowing he could do 12 rounds in his sleep,and thinking that Jones (chin in the air hands at his hips) would be easy. But the speed suprised him and he wasn't mentally prepared to work. At that, while RJJ clearly won the fight, he didn't beat up Toney; the KD was more a shoulder block than a punch. I just wish Toney would have taken the fight seriously- he didn't even run into the ring- or that RJJ would have fought him at 175 or 190. Then I wouldn't have had to hear this Jones is God nonsense for all these years.

[Gandalf]

I think it is unlikely that Roy Jones will be born again or clone himself. It is a possibility, but I assume that kind of thing is very, very rare. Even Jesus is having a very hard time with that, so I can only assume it will be equally difficult for Roy too.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

People can rate or disregard Roy as much as they like because in most ways I can see their point of view however, I am in no doubt whatsoever that there is no one (bar none) in history that can use their bodies quite like Roy could.

That combination of balance, speed and power - with his typical form, as consistent as it was over 12 whole rounds; was quite a thing to behold.

I mean, if he wasn't the most athletic (fighter ever), he was certainly the most balletic, that's for sure!

[Max Power]

None of the poll options are correct.

The law of entropy determines that there will always be a recurrence of a similar or better fighter than has already been.

That aside, Roy Jones's style is based around split second timing, lightening speed and outstanding reflexes.

These qualities will of course manifest themselves again and again as they are staples of boxing. An amazing natural talent simply need to meet early, sustained, quality training.

Already, David Haye is basically a longer/heftier version of Jones!

[Andre]

Already, David Haye is basically a longer/heftier version of Jones!

Pffft.

[Master]

Already, David Haye is basically a longer/heftier version of Jones!

Pffft.

Max oh Max.

[Beanflicker]

They stole his gold medal in South Korea, let's look back at his whole career

[Master]

There has been no one like and and there will never be anyone like him. Roy is unique.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

None of the poll options are correct.

The law of entropy determines that there will always be a recurrence of a similar or better fighter than has already been.

That aside, Roy Jones's style is based around split second timing, lightening speed and outstanding reflexes.

These qualities will of course manifest themselves again and again as they are staples of boxing. An amazing natural talent simply need to meet early, sustained, quality training.

Already, David Haye is basically a longer/heftier version of Jones!

Roy Jones' ability to mobilise and stabilise his body with far greater exertion and control than any, is what makes him uniquely special.

David Haye is relatively clumsy in that regard. Poor comparison.

[Beanflicker]

Roy Jones' ability to mobilise and stabilise his body with far greater exertion and control than any, is what makes him uniquely special.

David Haye is relatively clumsy in that regard. Poor comparison.

Max Power mussa forgot... SMH

[Max Power]

And of course Jones was special, such a combination represents probably the sharpest of all boxing skills combined, in my opinion.

[SugarBoxing]

I am planning to train

Tyson 2.0 and SugarRay 1001, but Roy Jones, Sr version, is in plans at the third place on the list

[SlimTrae]

RJJ left questions, that should've been answered.

Even though I am one who states names he didn't fight, I still felt he would've won, yet he didn't fight ALL the names.

My 1st knock on him is that...Guys like Ray Robinson had over 120 fights before his talents and skill deteriorated.
The second knock on RJJ was his testing positive for a banned substance, the 3rd knock was when he came back to LHW, the title was stripped of the one who won it in the ring- wreaked of favoritism. That fighter sued ...and won, proving RJJ should've fought to get the LHW title back.

RJJ's talent & yes skill can't be denied. A bad mofo, but his rule consisted of too many ordinary Joes: Lastly when he chose to fight vinny Pazienza, I felt cheated. Paz, seemed to roided up...when comparing him to his early days and came back from what was it? A motorcycle accident? I expected Michael Nunn or Rochiaginni, but after Toney, the names were pretty weak, if not awful. Maybe credit to fighting the body snatcher McCallum, but... this was 96? a dude who had been fighting since 1981?!

I agree with what Manny Steward said: Roy is probably the most waste of talent ever. So much skill so much speed & power and who did he display it against? Thorton, Sosa, Lucas, Brannon, Griffin was a good fighter, but few knew him. Hill was always considered protected. Then Devalle, Grant, Reggie Johnson , Telesco? Richard Hall?! A who's who list of WHO are these guys?

Great talent, unique skills, but a horrible manager of his own fights.

[Beanflicker]

At the end of the day, there were legit reasons why he didn't fight most of the guys people bring up. And I mean knocking the guy because he didn't have 100 plus fights before his skills eroded? Come on, dude. Sugar Ray Robinson was shit at 35. So was Henry Armstrong, Willie Pep, Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Pernell Whitaker, ect ect. That's the age where guys are typically past their prime, if not sooner.

[Max Power]

Roy did have fundamental boxing skills but he simply had more success with his unorthodox style based on his reflexes, speed, balance and power.

I don't think a more focussed effort on training and utilising these "fundamental skills" would have improved Roy at all. Probably detracting from his incredible style he did have.