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    Default Re: Which fighter impressed you most this weekend?

    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Khan.

    Stayed focused and boxed devons ears off!

    Khan is undefeated with virgil and I always knew they were made for each other.

    Roach had khan and pac who are two of the fastest boxers in the divison but couldnt evolve or teach them shit about patience or defense.
    I can't say that Freddy was wrong for Khan or Pacquiao. In fact, these two fighters demonstrate the differences in what a good trainer can do for you if you listen or if you don't. If you work hard and you listen to your trainer and you discuss the decisions that can affect your training with them, you guys can be on the same page and eliminate the small things that can take your focus off the fight. You can build a strong foundation and begin training before or even when he isn't there.

    Or...

    You can complain that you're not getting enough time and attention and that a trainer is not helping you, and then completely ignore his advice in the middle of a fight and decide to trade with somebody who's already turned your legs into jelly instead of boxing, clinching or using your range.

    Some trainers will hold your hand, and do the baby steps thing with you. Others ask you to realize you chose to train with them for a reason and accept the advice they give you, so they can mold you. You cant be half in it and half out of it. If you want to take only part of my advice and be half my fighter and half your own fighter, well one of our halves is gonna lose and take the other half with it. I get paid either way, but if success and legacy is what you're after, you have to commit to the plan and believe in your trainer.

    Cotto, also seemed to get better under Freddy. Provodnikov is prone to resorting to swinging away sometimes but at least he's not fighting on ESPN anymore. Chavez only does what he wants. You take away from it what you can.. Some trainers may not fit some fighters, but you have to subscribe to the plan before you say it doesn't work.
    They want your @$$ beat because upsets make news. News brings about excitement, excitement brings about ratings. The objective is to bring you up to the tower and tear your @$$ down. And if you don't believe that, you're crazy.

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    Default Re: Which fighter impressed you most this weekend?

    Andy Lee... I wonder if Chavez would rematch him after seeing that?
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    Default Re: Which fighter impressed you most this weekend?

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Andy Lee... I wonder if Chavez would rematch him after seeing that?
    I cant see Chavez possibly making 160 again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Andy Lee... I wonder if Chavez would rematch him after seeing that?
    I cant see Chavez possibly making 160 again


    I'm afraid I'm gonna have to stick up for Chavez on this one.
    You are seriously underestimating Chavez's ability to make weight, only to show up fight night 30 pounds heavier.
    Legally or otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Khan.

    Stayed focused and boxed devons ears off!

    Khan is undefeated with virgil and I always knew they were made for each other.

    Roach had khan and pac who are two of the fastest boxers in the divison but couldnt evolve or teach them shit about patience or defense.
    I can't say that Freddy was wrong for Khan or Pacquiao. In fact, these two fighters demonstrate the differences in what a good trainer can do for you if you listen or if you don't. If you work hard and you listen to your trainer and you discuss the decisions that can affect your training with them, you guys can be on the same page and eliminate the small things that can take your focus off the fight. You can build a strong foundation and begin training before or even when he isn't there.

    Or...

    You can complain that you're not getting enough time and attention and that a trainer is not helping you, and then completely ignore his advice in the middle of a fight and decide to trade with somebody who's already turned your legs into jelly instead of boxing, clinching or using your range.

    Some trainers will hold your hand, and do the baby steps thing with you. Others ask you to realize you chose to train with them for a reason and accept the advice they give you, so they can mold you. You cant be half in it and half out of it. If you want to take only part of my advice and be half my fighter and half your own fighter, well one of our halves is gonna lose and take the other half with it. I get paid either way, but if success and legacy is what you're after, you have to commit to the plan and believe in your trainer.

    Cotto, also seemed to get better under Freddy. Provodnikov is prone to resorting to swinging away sometimes but at least he's not fighting on ESPN anymore. Chavez only does what he wants. You take away from it what you can.. Some trainers may not fit some fighters, but you have to subscribe to the plan before you say it doesn't work.
    Was cotto under freddie roach against trout and martinez?

    Eubank jr needs another bloody trainer.

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    Default Re: Which fighter impressed you most this weekend?

    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Khan.

    Stayed focused and boxed devons ears off!

    Khan is undefeated with virgil and I always knew they were made for each other.

    Roach had khan and pac who are two of the fastest boxers in the divison but couldnt evolve or teach them shit about patience or defense.
    I can't say that Freddy was wrong for Khan or Pacquiao. In fact, these two fighters demonstrate the differences in what a good trainer can do for you if you listen or if you don't. If you work hard and you listen to your trainer and you discuss the decisions that can affect your training with them, you guys can be on the same page and eliminate the small things that can take your focus off the fight. You can build a strong foundation and begin training before or even when he isn't there.

    Or...

    You can complain that you're not getting enough time and attention and that a trainer is not helping you, and then completely ignore his advice in the middle of a fight and decide to trade with somebody who's already turned your legs into jelly instead of boxing, clinching or using your range.

    Some trainers will hold your hand, and do the baby steps thing with you. Others ask you to realize you chose to train with them for a reason and accept the advice they give you, so they can mold you. You cant be half in it and half out of it. If you want to take only part of my advice and be half my fighter and half your own fighter, well one of our halves is gonna lose and take the other half with it. I get paid either way, but if success and legacy is what you're after, you have to commit to the plan and believe in your trainer.

    Cotto, also seemed to get better under Freddy. Provodnikov is prone to resorting to swinging away sometimes but at least he's not fighting on ESPN anymore. Chavez only does what he wants. You take away from it what you can.. Some trainers may not fit some fighters, but you have to subscribe to the plan before you say it doesn't work.
    Was cotto under freddie roach against trout and martinez?

    Eubank jr needs another bloody trainer.
    I think Trout was the last guy (Cuban trainer) - Rodriguez and Martinez, were under Freddy's watch. Granted Matchmaking can factor into those 2 fights, but Cotto seems to fight smarter at least.
    They want your @$$ beat because upsets make news. News brings about excitement, excitement brings about ratings. The objective is to bring you up to the tower and tear your @$$ down. And if you don't believe that, you're crazy.

    Roy Jones, Jr. "What I've Learned," Esquire 2003

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    Default Re: Which fighter impressed you most this weekend?

    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Khan.

    Stayed focused and boxed devons ears off!

    Khan is undefeated with virgil and I always knew they were made for each other.

    Roach had khan and pac who are two of the fastest boxers in the divison but couldnt evolve or teach them shit about patience or defense.
    I can't say that Freddy was wrong for Khan or Pacquiao. In fact, these two fighters demonstrate the differences in what a good trainer can do for you if you listen or if you don't. If you work hard and you listen to your trainer and you discuss the decisions that can affect your training with them, you guys can be on the same page and eliminate the small things that can take your focus off the fight. You can build a strong foundation and begin training before or even when he isn't there.

    Or...

    You can complain that you're not getting enough time and attention and that a trainer is not helping you, and then completely ignore his advice in the middle of a fight and decide to trade with somebody who's already turned your legs into jelly instead of boxing, clinching or using your range.

    Some trainers will hold your hand, and do the baby steps thing with you. Others ask you to realize you chose to train with them for a reason and accept the advice they give you, so they can mold you. You cant be half in it and half out of it. If you want to take only part of my advice and be half my fighter and half your own fighter, well one of our halves is gonna lose and take the other half with it. I get paid either way, but if success and legacy is what you're after, you have to commit to the plan and believe in your trainer.

    Cotto, also seemed to get better under Freddy. Provodnikov is prone to resorting to swinging away sometimes but at least he's not fighting on ESPN anymore. Chavez only does what he wants. You take away from it what you can.. Some trainers may not fit some fighters, but you have to subscribe to the plan before you say it doesn't work.
    Khan wasn't ready at his time under Roach. That's when Khan was still doing that ridiculous showboating the pissed Roach off. Roach talked about it a number of times after his fights. Khan wasn't ready to listen. I saw he almost started a foot shuffle Saturday night but caught himself, I was glad to see that as that showboating stuff Khan used to do turned me off. After his fight Sat. When he started saying he was the best boxer with the best jab in boxing, I found that a bit hoaky but I understand the adrenaline had to be pumping at that point.

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    Default Re: Which fighter impressed you most this weekend?

    Khan but an honourable mention to Herrera. I wanted Benavidez to win but Mauricio was jobbed again.

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