Sydney Seige

[Andre]

I know, Andre. It seems then that this guy was a crazy, but that doesn't mean that there wasn't some logic to his reasoning. It is shitty behavior to be holding innocent people hostage, but it is shitty behavior aplenty in an age of complete insanity. Two wrongs do not make a right, but one has to try and understand it. I can just see where extremism comes from and unfortunately we have the crazies at the helm on our part who inflict a lot more carnage daily and I can see more doubling down as a response. Three wrongs won't make it more right either. It's a tragedy, it really is.

Yep now we got power crazy fuckers on both sides, now both using the other side as an excuse to remain in power get more funds and go all out for even more.

There are billions of us who just want peace and yet we cant seem to be able to put an end to the well armed insane who play war games etc with real people, who we finance through taxes etc.I get it but theres not much in answers, maybe it will all get played out at our ultimate expense.

We are so many if we just got together and decided to not buy fuel from one company at all for a week,we would cause a price war and all pump prices would tumble in it. Thats the power we have on mass but dont use it.

[Gandalf]

True, all sides are equally crazy. Now the Taliban stepping it up too and I am sure a good cue to drone Pakistan once again. Around and around in circles. Maybe I'm wrong, but these people in charge don't seem very bright, they just repeat and repeat the same mistakes hoping it will go better each time. The West just needs a few moustaches at the top and the circle is complete.

[Beanz]

True, all sides are equally crazy. Now the Taliban stepping it up too and I am sure a good cue to drone Pakistan once again. Around and around in circles. Maybe I'm wrong, but these people in charge don't seem very bright, they just repeat and repeat the same mistakes hoping it will go better each time. The West just needs a few moustaches at the top and the circle is complete.

The Taliban have just killed 126 in a Pakistan school. At least 100 of which were children. They have claimed it was a revenge attack for a Pakistani army attack against the Taliban in Warziristan. No mention of the west. People capable of such things can never come up with excuses or justification for such cowardly barbarity. It's 2014 and there is a world of difference between purposeful and accidental killing, however hard that may be to reconcile with the oversimplified meme like explanations pedalled by those who do nothing but spread fear. That's both ends, Farrage and Alex Jones.

[Gandalf]

True, all sides are equally crazy. Now the Taliban stepping it up too and I am sure a good cue to drone Pakistan once again. Around and around in circles. Maybe I'm wrong, but these people in charge don't seem very bright, they just repeat and repeat the same mistakes hoping it will go better each time. The West just needs a few moustaches at the top and the circle is complete.

The Taliban have just killed 126 in a Pakistan school. At least 100 of which were children. They have claimed it was a revenge attack for a Pakistani army attack against the Taliban in Warziristan. No mention of the west. People capable of such things can never come up with excuses or justification for such cowardly barbarity. It's 2014 and there is a world of difference between purposeful and accidental killing, however hard that may be to reconcile with the oversimplified meme like explanations pedalled by those who do nothing but spread fear. That's both ends, Farrage and Alex Jones.

Alright. 1,000,000 killed by the West in Iraq. How was that? Want some more, you are getting away lucky. You really are.

[El Kabong]

Alright. 1,000,000 killed by the West in Iraq. How was that? Want some more, you are getting away lucky. You really are.

We could have EASILY killed more and probably should have

[Gandalf]

The problem for you is that I didn't invade Iraq. That was the key crime in the 21st century. This all emanates from it.....so you Western scum need to wake up. And get off my TV. I can't stand you.

[ryanman]

The problem for you is that I didn't invade Iraq. That was the key crime in the 21st century. This all emanates from it.....so you Western scum need to wake up. And get off my TV. I can't stand you.

It all emanates from the 2003 invasion of Iraq?

So, the September 2001 terrorists had access to a time machine?

Sorry to be facetious but I think you are being too reductionist Miles.

[Gandalf]

The problem for you is that I didn't invade Iraq. That was the key crime in the 21st century. This all emanates from it.....so you Western scum need to wake up. And get off my TV. I can't stand you.

It all emanates from the 2003 invasion of Iraq?

So, the September 2001 terrorists had access to a time machine?

Sorry to be facetious but I think you are being too reductionist Miles.

Ryan, are you reading some kind of script?

2001 was a Saudi attack end of story. It had nothing to do with Afghanistan nor Iraq. Nothing.

That leads to different questions but governments failed to answer them. Saudi's attacked the buildings, they were detonated to the ground.

[El Kabong]

I can't stand you.

At least the feeling is mutual

[Gandalf]

I can't stand you.

At least the feeling is mutual

Yeah, but you are losing. And you know it. Carry on feeling.

[ryanman]

True, all sides are equally crazy. Now the Taliban stepping it up too and I am sure a good cue to drone Pakistan once again. Around and around in circles. Maybe I'm wrong, but these people in charge don't seem very bright, they just repeat and repeat the same mistakes hoping it will go better each time. The West just needs a few moustaches at the top and the circle is complete.

The Taliban have just killed 126 in a Pakistan school. At least 100 of which were children. They have claimed it was a revenge attack for a Pakistani army attack against the Taliban in Warziristan. No mention of the west. People capable of such things can never come up with excuses or justification for such cowardly barbarity. It's 2014 and there is a world of difference between purposeful and accidental killing, however hard that may be to reconcile with the oversimplified meme like explanations pedalled by those who do nothing but spread fear. That's both ends, Farrage and Alex Jones.

Alright. 1,000,000 killed by the West in Iraq. How was that? Want some more, you are getting away lucky. You really are.

You see no difference between bombs being dropped on enemy targets that accidentally hit civilians and people dressed in school uniform walking into a school and murdering 126 children? The actions of the people involved are the same?
You are lying to yourself if you think that the pilot firing a missile at a military target but killing civilians instead (as awful as that is) and the man that looks into an innocent child's eyes and shoots it are the same type of animal.
Do you think that a reasonable response to the actions of a government is to murder woman and children of that nationality? I know you say it isn't be you do keep equating them.

I'm not blinkered from and blinded to the crimes of the West. Not at all. Far from it. But I can see a clear difference when talking about these individual actions.

[Gandalf]

True, all sides are equally crazy. Now the Taliban stepping it up too and I am sure a good cue to drone Pakistan once again. Around and around in circles. Maybe I'm wrong, but these people in charge don't seem very bright, they just repeat and repeat the same mistakes hoping it will go better each time. The West just needs a few moustaches at the top and the circle is complete.

The Taliban have just killed 126 in a Pakistan school. At least 100 of which were children. They have claimed it was a revenge attack for a Pakistani army attack against the Taliban in Warziristan. No mention of the west. People capable of such things can never come up with excuses or justification for such cowardly barbarity. It's 2014 and there is a world of difference between purposeful and accidental killing, however hard that may be to reconcile with the oversimplified meme like explanations pedalled by those who do nothing but spread fear. That's both ends, Farrage and Alex Jones.

Alright. 1,000,000 killed by the West in Iraq. How was that? Want some more, you are getting away lucky. You really are.

You see no difference between bombs being dropped on enemy targets that accidentally hit civilians and people dressed in school uniform walking into a school and murdering 126 children? The actions of the people involved are the same?
You are lying to yourself if you think that the pilot firing a missile at a military target but killing civilians instead (as awful as that is) and the man that looks into an innocent child's eyes and shoots it are the same type of animal.
Do you think that a reasonable response to the actions of a government is to murder woman and children of that nationality? I know you say it isn't be you do keep equating them.

I'm not blinkered from and blinded to the crimes of the West. Not at all. Far from it. But I can see a clear difference when talking about these individual actions.

No, I will not make such distinctions. 1,000,000 dead is a lot of accidents. It is genocide. The BBC will never say such a thing and that is why it should be banned. It is an institutional propaganda network. It is despicable.

[Andre]

True, all sides are equally crazy. Now the Taliban stepping it up too and I am sure a good cue to drone Pakistan once again. Around and around in circles. Maybe I'm wrong, but these people in charge don't seem very bright, they just repeat and repeat the same mistakes hoping it will go better each time. The West just needs a few moustaches at the top and the circle is complete.

The Taliban have just killed 126 in a Pakistan school. At least 100 of which were children. They have claimed it was a revenge attack for a Pakistani army attack against the Taliban in Warziristan. No mention of the west. People capable of such things can never come up with excuses or justification for such cowardly barbarity. It's 2014 and there is a world of difference between purposeful and accidental killing, however hard that may be to reconcile with the oversimplified meme like explanations pedalled by those who do nothing but spread fear. That's both ends, Farrage and Alex Jones.

Alright. 1,000,000 killed by the West in Iraq. How was that? Want some more, you are getting away lucky. You really are.

You see no difference between bombs being dropped on enemy targets that accidentally hit civilians and people dressed in school uniform walking into a school and murdering 126 children? The actions of the people involved are the same?
You are lying to yourself if you think that the pilot firing a missile at a military target but killing civilians instead (as awful as that is) and the man that looks into an innocent child's eyes and shoots it are the same type of animal.
Do you think that a reasonable response to the actions of a government is to murder woman and children of that nationality? I know you say it isn't be you do keep equating them.

I'm not blinkered from and blinded to the crimes of the West. Not at all. Far from it. But I can see a clear difference when talking about these individual actions.

Remember the enemy put our captured soldiers and press agents etc in the military buildings and when they didnt have those sort of pawns to use they used their own civilians or one from opposite tribes in there.

Our boys knowingly bombed our own blood at times its what happens unfortunatley. At other times we go in under cover of night and risk others to save one and that can go very wrong too.

These taliban dont want eduction or rights to choose @Gandalf ,Dont you remember when they cut the heads off female teachers in Afghanistan out on the football oval? They take the ones they want to use and kill the educated ones they are scared of. Whimps . Male bearded fucking whimps who want total power over females,whimps who pick on the unarmed public and try to wipe out others dna off the planet.

Fuck them and their stupid religious rules they fight for.

[Gandalf]

True, all sides are equally crazy. Now the Taliban stepping it up too and I am sure a good cue to drone Pakistan once again. Around and around in circles. Maybe I'm wrong, but these people in charge don't seem very bright, they just repeat and repeat the same mistakes hoping it will go better each time. The West just needs a few moustaches at the top and the circle is complete.

The Taliban have just killed 126 in a Pakistan school. At least 100 of which were children. They have claimed it was a revenge attack for a Pakistani army attack against the Taliban in Warziristan. No mention of the west. People capable of such things can never come up with excuses or justification for such cowardly barbarity. It's 2014 and there is a world of difference between purposeful and accidental killing, however hard that may be to reconcile with the oversimplified meme like explanations pedalled by those who do nothing but spread fear. That's both ends, Farrage and Alex Jones.

Alright. 1,000,000 killed by the West in Iraq. How was that? Want some more, you are getting away lucky. You really are.

You see no difference between bombs being dropped on enemy targets that accidentally hit civilians and people dressed in school uniform walking into a school and murdering 126 children? The actions of the people involved are the same?
You are lying to yourself if you think that the pilot firing a missile at a military target but killing civilians instead (as awful as that is) and the man that looks into an innocent child's eyes and shoots it are the same type of animal.
Do you think that a reasonable response to the actions of a government is to murder woman and children of that nationality? I know you say it isn't be you do keep equating them.

I'm not blinkered from and blinded to the crimes of the West. Not at all. Far from it. But I can see a clear difference when talking about these individual actions.

Remember the enemy put our captured soldiers and press agents etc in the military buildings and when they didnt have those sort of pawns to use they used their own civilians or one from opposite tribes in there.

Our boys knowingly bombed our own blood at times its what happens unfortunatley. At other times we go in under cover of night and risk others to save one and that can go very wrong too.

These taliban dont want eduction or rights to choose @Gandalf ,Dont you remember when they cut the heads off female teachers in Afghanistan out on the football oval? They take the ones they want to use and kill the educated ones they are scared of. Whimps . Male bearded fucking whimps who want total power over females,whimps who pick on the unarmed public and try to wipe out others dna off the planet.

Fuck them and their stupid religious rules they fight for.

Likewise, fuck the West and the stupid power games that they play. 1,000, 000 dead and half a million kids dead through sanction was no accident either. Child abuse, torture, illegal invasion....so morally superior. We have open borders, so if we are so bothered, then let all those that want freedom in and leave the world alone. However, don't get shirty when they don't like it after all and they try to change you.

[Beanz]

True, all sides are equally crazy. Now the Taliban stepping it up too and I am sure a good cue to drone Pakistan once again. Around and around in circles. Maybe I'm wrong, but these people in charge don't seem very bright, they just repeat and repeat the same mistakes hoping it will go better each time. The West just needs a few moustaches at the top and the circle is complete.

The Taliban have just killed 126 in a Pakistan school. At least 100 of which were children. They have claimed it was a revenge attack for a Pakistani army attack against the Taliban in Warziristan. No mention of the west. People capable of such things can never come up with excuses or justification for such cowardly barbarity. It's 2014 and there is a world of difference between purposeful and accidental killing, however hard that may be to reconcile with the oversimplified meme like explanations pedalled by those who do nothing but spread fear. That's both ends, Farrage and Alex Jones.

Alright. 1,000,000 killed by the West in Iraq. How was that? Want some more, you are getting away lucky. You really are.

You? who is you? I am talking about today. Over 100 children murdered in cold blood TODAY. This is a fact not something I have even seen reported by the BBC yet. This is not a time for point scoring.