Reverse Engineering Archie Moore and his "Lock" System

[jms]

Good post jms, i agree with what your saying about MMA aswell the variation in weapons just makes it much harder to narrow somebody down, it makes for training dumb fighters. A system is not possible like in boxing were you can build a system, strategy use defensive manouvers that cover a vatiety of punches rather than just 1, wenever you move you load perfect shots, dont just move to where your going, knowing that boxing is an unpredictable thing at times, but also knowing the lack of weapons makes it a controllable environment and more like a chess game than the randomness that can be other combat sports.

Thats what boxing is. You obviously dont understand the difference between boxing somebody and havin a war in the trenches, youve never boxed before dont take the piss.

if you do know Freddy Roach BCBUD which obviously you dont. you would have heared him say many times over that luck should never be involved in boxing, ask him what he means
If a lot of coaches took that saying to heart then we would see better standards being trained today.

Freddie Roach told me that you can teach a fighter something new only to have him revert inside the ring. Tru dat.

No shit you can't apply every new thing you learn immediately. Are you telling me Roach thinks you can't teach someone anything new? Just man up, admit you're wrong and move on.

[WayneFlint]

BCbud its obvious you aint never spoken to Freddie Roach stop talkin shit youve been called out and exposed. Dont bother posting any more of your opinions unless it accompanys a video of you boxing/proof youve been in a gym/full name so you can clear your name.

[BCBUD]

BCbud its obvious you aint never spoken to Freddie Roach stop talkin shit youve been called out and exposed. Dont bother posting any more of your opinions unless it accompanys a video of you boxing/proof youve been in a gym/full name so you can clear your name.

I have spoken with Freddie Roach, look Wayne again I'm going to show everyone how easy it is to beat your "system". Freddie says the best punches are six inches away from the target. It's hard to see a punch that originates from six inches away believe me I've been caught before.
Now you throw long jabs, and left hooks that you fall backwards unto left leg.
This how I'd fight you. In your stance put the right glove on the left chin! Now catch the jab! Now place the right hand on the right cheek turning to the left blocking the falling backwards Unto the right leg left hook. Now with the left foot step out to the left getting closer to the target. Now attach the right glove to the right cheek and throw the short left hook pushing off the front foot. Now left hook to the body and back up again (lever punching).
Unfortunately this is easier said than done against short punches.

[BCBUD]

Wayne are you British? Omg it's true we used too hear stories about the British boxers standing upright perpendicular. We thought that this was mere folklore.Sorry but I think our differences maybe cultural where I'm from most of the coaches are Irish there's huge difference in styles believe me. Look at Freddie Roach and Kenny Weldon, Teddy Atlas, Kevin Rooney I myself am Irish. In Irish boxing the technique is to put your head over the left knee this is after stepping out but where in British boxing both feet move at the same time with Roach and Weldon it's one foot at a time this enables you to get low enough to get the head over the knee it's almost bowing. I'd encourage you to look into this further even the punches are different when punching with your head over the knee. Study the Kenny Weldon tapes even better Freddie Roach. Sincerist apologies I meant no offence. Merry Christmas

[BCBUD]

For all you in the U.K who need advanced training on how to put your head over the left knee go to Scrap an expert on Charley Burley get some training preferably 1-1 with him. the difference between Roach,Kenny and Burley has to do with the positioning of the feet. Weldon is horizontal in positioning of the head so is Roach.

[jms]

You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

[BCBUD]

You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WgEyQhz4B68 Irish inside boxing omg watch this through then watch over all of Kenny Weldon's inside fighting and all of Roach's I've spent many summers at Kenny's gym a lot of us passed through there at one time. Top Irish fighters that I met there were 1. Tex Cobb 2. Tommy Morrison. 3. I worked with Termite Watkins personally until Weldon broke his neck than I went Roach. Believe me Irish inside boxing is no urban legend.

[jms]

You're just making shit up. I'll be damned if you're a day over 16 and have thrown a single punch in your life.

[BCBUD]

You're just making shit up. I'll be damned if you're a day over 16 and have thrown a single punch in your life.

17

[BCBUD]

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You're just making shit up. I'll be damned if you're a day over 16 and have thrown a single punch in your life.

JMS you're obviously getting your jollies baiting me but I'm sure that you're not a boxer 110%. I'm the real deal. JMS your 40 years old who albeit attends a weekly MMA/bjj class. It's obvious by your writings that a coach wouldn't put you inside a ring "it's to bad that aggression is so valued in boxing" or better yet "I'm worried that you might have taken one to many in the dome" no lol a boxer. My old coach used say that being a fighter is 80% no fear and 20% fear. He would've never have put you in the ring.I don't have time for academic articles about stretching leave that up to the trainers. What I do Care about is tricks. Take care JMS Merry Christmas

[jms]

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You're just making shit up. I'll be damned if you're a day over 16 and have thrown a single punch in your life.

JMS you're obviously getting your jollies baiting me but I'm sure that you're not a boxer 110%. I'm the real deal. JMS your 40 years old who albeit attends a weekly MMA/bjj class. It's obvious by your writings that a coach wouldn't put you inside a ring "it's to bad that aggression is so valued in boxing" or better yet "I'm worried that you might have taken one to many in the dome" no lol a boxer. My old coach used say that being a fighter is 80% no fear and 20% fear. He would've never have put you in the ring.I don't have time for academic articles about stretching leave that up to the trainers. What I do Care about is tricks. Take care JMS Merry Christmas

Your 17? That explains everything lol.

The funny thing is my style is pressure. I box until I get bored then I start walking the other guy down if he isn't throwing enough. But I do it with defense first. I can walk right at guys and make them miss. I'm aggressive as fuck, its just how i am, but i dont value my aggression half as much as my defense. My defense is the reason I can be agressive in the first place.

Btw there's a difference between being tough and being stupid. Guess which one you are?

And lol at weekly MMA/BJJ. Look man I enjoy talking shop with the actual boxers on this forum. You just get shit wrong constantly then ignore when people correct you.

[BCBUD]

This is my final post in saddoboxing.com it's not my style of fighting. In conclusion you can jab at me all you want but if that jab doesn't stop me. I'll take it and throw a right hand over the top bomb squad.

[jms]

This is my final post in saddoboxing.com it's not my style of fighting. In conclusion you can jab at me all you want but if that jab doesn't stop me. I'll take it and throw a right hand over the top bomb squad.

Have you ever sparred someone who actually knows how to jab? If you did you'd know a jab can stop you in your tracks, but the real concern is what's coming after it.

[WayneFlint]

and i would jab you high to the forehead to open you up on your way in which would leverage block your overhand right,then feint right, Left hook head n body.

You think i havnt seen hundreds of overhands? Lol stop reading about boxing and go to a gym to learn BCBud you obviously have never boxed good opposition in a real gym.

If you threw the overhand it was because i was jabbing to the chest luring you to pqrry block or counter in an attempt to delayer your defence and make you more predictable to figure you out and put one where your goin.

Any fight is about adapting and having an answer to everything. Cya BCBud