earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

[Arvid_85]

Since I started to write on this board again, I have seen many threads about this Shavers. I have watched him sparingly because his fights were all about if he could land a punch or not, which means he took much punishment and could box shit. Now when he is brought up again here I have watched him again on the tube.

And now I see him as even a worser fighter. All I can ever stand watching is highlights of him knocking or hurting opponents. Watching full fights with him was a pain (except the final round against Ali), seeing this bum just walking around and covering up, almost no punching, gassing out even though he said he chopped wood all that physically tough excersise, weak chin. Jesus Christ, why all this about Shavers?

[Max Power]

Since I started to write on this board again, I have seen many threads about this Shavers. I have watched him sparingly because his fights were all about if he could land a punch or not, which means he took much punishment and could box shit. Now when he is brought up again here I have watched him again on the tube.

And now I see him as even a worser fighter. All I can ever stand watching is highlights of him knocking or hurting opponents. Watching full fights with him was a pain (except the final round against Ali), seeing this bum just walking around and covering up, almost no punching, gassing out even though he said he chopped wood all that physically tough excersise, weak chin. Jesus Christ, why all this about Shavers?

I will tell you why...

Because Shavers is very special for Nostslgists to promote.

Because he beat Muhammad Ali, and he beat Ken Norton and Foreman and Frazier didn't fight him. And he had competitive fights with young Holmes.

If Earnie Shavers is NOT upheld as something special, of Earnie Shavers is properly regarded as the total bum that he is/was... Then this is what happens...

Muhammad Ali lost to ANOTHER bum.
Ken Norton lost to a bum.
Holmes struggled to beat a bum
Frazier ducked a bum
Foreman ducked a bum

And the whole Golden era it is clear is the most unusually weak era in history even given it's relatively late appearance in the history of boxing.

This is unacceptable for OTNB, so the mythology of Shavers, the religious construction that has become the identity of Earnie Shavers, is put forward as the answer as to the expaination of how such a terrible boxer could pose so much difficulties for the other boxers.

Although it is clear to any objective reader that Earnie Shavers would never step into a professional boxing ring today either as a Cruiser or as a heavy, some of these guys here in fact DO really believe that Shavers would be a decent opponent today at world ranked level.

There are the indoctrinators, and the indoctrinated.