Earnie Shavers: You Would Not Have Heard Of The Klits In My Day

[Master]

You need to read and see more because your knowledge is based on what is current is best when it is not.

Eras go in cycles they all can not be the best 70's and 90's the best 2000 = suck. It will pick up.

Yeah more like your favourites fought in those eras.

"It will pick up", yeah I'll bet, like when Klitschko retires right? I will laugh if Pulev takes over the div when Wladimir retires, then you will have to wait again! lol

Wilder will take over and I will laugh at you.

[Max Power]

You need to read and see more because your knowledge is based on what is current is best when it is not.

Eras go in cycles they all can not be the best 70's and 90's the best 2000 = suck. It will pick up.

Yeah more like your favourites fought in those eras.

"It will pick up", yeah I'll bet, like when Klitschko retires right? I will laugh if Pulev takes over the div when Wladimir retires, then you will have to wait again! lol

Wilder will take over and I will laugh at you.

I don't care if Wilder does take over. I rank boxers on their achievements. So far he is a bum fighter like Shavers and Liston. If he can beat fighters like Stiverne, then he's proven himself worthy of the top.

I will adjust my rating accordingly, and his methods to reach his goal will become relevant as "another way" to go about getting to where you want to be. However disreputable it might have been. But if he didn't have the goods, he wouldn't beat top guys, that's the point.

And if he fails? He was just a bum like Liston and Shavers.

In January, we will know what he's made of.

The fact he is more exciting than Pulev is not the main reason you will be happier. It will be because he isn't from a continental European country and you can identify with him.

[Master]

Liston is not a bum he was champion of the world which is more than some of your boxers you like will ever acheive.

I like Wilder, please do not make me hate him because of you.

I hope he beats Stiverne.

[Max Power]

Liston is not a bum he was champion of the world which is more than some of your boxers you like will ever acheive.

I like Wilder, please do not make me hate him because of you.

I hope he beats Stiverne.

Sonny Liston was not a bum fine, I have been informed to cut down the name calling by @Andre. I assume he means not only posters but also boxers I dunno.

But anyhow Liston and Shavers had good records themselves but they consisted of hardly any decent opponents at all. If you deflate their records, they are shockingly poor. Manufactured exactly as Wilder is. Except Wilders opponents were atleast real HW opponents.

Anyhow why would you hate Wilder because of anything I say? I'm backing Stiverne, so what, you can laugh at me again if Wilder KO's him like with the Arreola thing and if it goes my way I don't really mind either, it's not like either pick will have required super intelligence. It's a rather intriguing match up really and difficult to predict.

[Andre]

No just keep the name calling stuff to the lets get it on section.
You know what happens otherwise; every thread in here slowly becomes a public pose between private waring factions.

[Max Power]

No just keep the name calling stuff to the lets get it on section.
You know what happens otherwise; every thread in here slowly becomes a public pose between private waring factions.

Yes taking liberties like that for comic effect get carried away, I understand. It wasn't very "objective" lol

[brocktonblockbust]

No just keep the name calling stuff to the lets get it on section.
You know what happens otherwise; every thread in here slowly becomes a public pose between private waring factions.

Yes taking liberties like that for comic effect get carried away, I understand. It wasn't very "objective" lol

Don't worry kid, you'll get the hang of it by 35-40.

[Master]

Liston is not a bum he was champion of the world which is more than some of your boxers you like will ever acheive.

I like Wilder, please do not make me hate him because of you.

I hope he beats Stiverne.

Sonny Liston was not a bum fine, I have been informed to cut down the name calling by @Andre. I assume he means not only posters but also boxers I dunno.

But anyhow Liston and Shavers had good records themselves but they consisted of hardly any decent opponents at all. If you deflate their records, they are shockingly poor. Manufactured exactly as Wilder is. Except Wilders opponents were atleast real HW opponents.

Anyhow why would you hate Wilder because of anything I say? I'm backing Stiverne, so what, you can laugh at me again if Wilder KO's him like with the Arreola thing and if it goes my way I don't really mind either, it's not like either pick will have required super intelligence. It's a rather intriguing match up really and difficult to predict.

That was why you left because you put all your eggs in one basket and said Arreola would beat Stiverne. I really hope Wilder wins now.

[Max Power]

Liston is not a bum he was champion of the world which is more than some of your boxers you like will ever acheive.

I like Wilder, please do not make me hate him because of you.

I hope he beats Stiverne.

Sonny Liston was not a bum fine, I have been informed to cut down the name calling by @Andre. I assume he means not only posters but also boxers I dunno.

But anyhow Liston and Shavers had good records themselves but they consisted of hardly any decent opponents at all. If you deflate their records, they are shockingly poor. Manufactured exactly as Wilder is. Except Wilders opponents were atleast real HW opponents.

Anyhow why would you hate Wilder because of anything I say? I'm backing Stiverne, so what, you can laugh at me again if Wilder KO's him like with the Arreola thing and if it goes my way I don't really mind either, it's not like either pick will have required super intelligence. It's a rather intriguing match up really and difficult to predict.

That was why you left because you put all your eggs in one basket and said Arreola would beat Stiverne. I really hope Wilder wins now.

LOL yeah yeah