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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Shit fight, but you don't get paid for doing fuck all. I would have thought they would've got someone a bit bigger if they're so certain they'll be facing Wlad soon
    Bigger doesn't mean better.

    Name a better opponent for feb 28th.
    Last edited by ross; 12-31-2014 at 06:21 PM.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Lucas browne or david price at least.

    Hammer is a shit opponent i agree.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by EL DINAMITA View Post
    Lucas browne or david price at least.

    Hammer is a shit opponent i agree.
    Lucas Brown is only ranked 20 in the world, David Price 26!

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Shit fight, but you don't get paid for doing fuck all. I would have thought they would've got someone a bit bigger if they're so certain they'll be facing Wlad soon
    Bigger doesn't mean better.

    Name a better opponent for feb 28th.

    Why not the man who chinned Hammer out? A less mobile version of Wlad who Fury probably couldn't knock out with a cricket bat, perfect.
    Mariusz Wach is ranked 44 in the world.

    Christian Hammer is ranked 11.

    These are boxrec independent rankings. Hammer is ranked higher than any of those fighters mentioned.

    Ricly Hatton wont let Brown fight Chambers let alone Fury. David Price has got a job to get in the ring with journeymen.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EL DINAMITA View Post
    Lucas browne or david price at least.

    Hammer is a shit opponent i agree.
    Lucas Brown is only ranked 20 in the world, David Price 26!

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Shit fight, but you don't get paid for doing fuck all. I would have thought they would've got someone a bit bigger if they're so certain they'll be facing Wlad soon
    Bigger doesn't mean better.

    Name a better opponent for feb 28th.

    Why not the man who chinned Hammer out? A less mobile version of Wlad who Fury probably couldn't knock out with a cricket bat, perfect.
    Mariusz Wach is ranked 44 in the world.

    Christian Hammer is ranked 11.

    These are boxrec independent rankings. Hammer is ranked higher than any of those fighters mentioned.

    Ricly Hatton wont let Brown fight Chambers let alone Fury. David Price has got a job to get in the ring with journeymen.
    Ranking isnt end all to worthiness. Ranking dont mean shit sometimes bra.

    Lucas browne is more dangerous than hamer and so is price.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by EL DINAMITA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EL DINAMITA View Post
    Lucas browne or david price at least.

    Hammer is a shit opponent i agree.
    Lucas Brown is only ranked 20 in the world, David Price 26!

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Shit fight, but you don't get paid for doing fuck all. I would have thought they would've got someone a bit bigger if they're so certain they'll be facing Wlad soon
    Bigger doesn't mean better.

    Name a better opponent for feb 28th.

    Why not the man who chinned Hammer out? A less mobile version of Wlad who Fury probably couldn't knock out with a cricket bat, perfect.
    Mariusz Wach is ranked 44 in the world.

    Christian Hammer is ranked 11.

    These are boxrec independent rankings. Hammer is ranked higher than any of those fighters mentioned.

    Ricly Hatton wont let Brown fight Chambers let alone Fury. David Price has got a job to get in the ring with journeymen.
    Ranking isnt end all to worthiness. Ranking dont mean shit sometimes bra.

    Lucas browne is more dangerous than hamer and so is price.
    If Brown and Price are so dangerous why are they still fighting nobodies and journeymen?

    They are being matched carefully against low level fighters because they have big limitations.

    Who is the highest ranked either has beaten?

    Rankings do mean something, especially the boxrec ones as they are independent and worked out by a scoring system. The reason hammer is far ahead of any of those others is because he has been beating much better fighters!

    Ranking doesn't mean anything? Thats like saying "just because hes a better fighter, doesn't make him a better fighter!!!!!"


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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    The boxrec system is far from perfect, no system is.

    A Price fight would at least show us Fury's skills once he's lost a height and reach advantage, would be more interesting than him fighting yet another shorter heavy.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    The boxrec system is far from perfect, no system is.

    A Price fight would at least show us Fury's skills once he's lost a height and reach advantage, would be more interesting than him fighting yet another shorter heavy.
    How would he lose a height and reach advantage over Price?

    Tyson is an inch taller and has a 3" reach advantage.

    It makes me laugh when you all say you want to see him fight someone he wont have a height and reach advantage over because there is no one that he wouldn't!
    Last edited by ross; 01-01-2015 at 04:29 AM.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EL DINAMITA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EL DINAMITA View Post
    Lucas browne or david price at least.

    Hammer is a shit opponent i agree.
    Lucas Brown is only ranked 20 in the world, David Price 26!

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Shit fight, but you don't get paid for doing fuck all. I would have thought they would've got someone a bit bigger if they're so certain they'll be facing Wlad soon
    Bigger doesn't mean better.

    Name a better opponent for feb 28th.

    Why not the man who chinned Hammer out? A less mobile version of Wlad who Fury probably couldn't knock out with a cricket bat, perfect.
    Mariusz Wach is ranked 44 in the world.

    Christian Hammer is ranked 11.

    These are boxrec independent rankings. Hammer is ranked higher than any of those fighters mentioned.

    Ricly Hatton wont let Brown fight Chambers let alone Fury. David Price has got a job to get in the ring with journeymen.
    Ranking isnt end all to worthiness. Ranking dont mean shit sometimes bra.

    Lucas browne is more dangerous than hamer and so is price.
    If Brown and Price are so dangerous why are they still fighting nobodies and journeymen?

    They are being matched carefully against low level fighters because they have big limitations.

    Who is the highest ranked either has beaten?

    Rankings do mean something, especially the boxrec ones as they are independent and worked out by a scoring system. The reason hammer is far ahead of any of those others is because he has been beating much better fighters!

    Ranking doesn't mean anything? Thats like saying "just because hes a better fighter, doesn't make him a better fighter!!!!!"

    Rankings DEFINITELY do not always mean much, clearly better fighters are often ranked below shitter ones and boxrecs scoring system is obviously flawed in this regard.

    IBO rankings are more legit as are Ring and fight News rankings but there are no ideal ways to rank fighters really.
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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Boxrec are the fairest. Its a scoring system. Its not a sanctioning body or magazine with influence that make money.

    As for height, Tysons 6th opponent Scott Belshaw is 6.7" Tyson fought him when Scott only had one loss and on points, he had a record of 10.1.0.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Shit fight, but you don't get paid for doing fuck all. I would have thought they would've got someone a bit bigger if they're so certain they'll be facing Wlad soon
    Bigger doesn't mean better.

    Name a better opponent for feb 28th.

    Why not the man who chinned Hammer out? A less mobile version of Wlad who Fury probably couldn't knock out with a cricket bat, perfect.
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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Why not the man who chinned Hammer out? A less mobile version of Wlad who Fury probably couldn't knock out with a cricket bat, perfect.
    Fury vs Wach would be a war IMO neither super huge punchers, neither like to "box", both are relatively easy to hit. I think that would be a dangerous fight for Fury at this point.

    Face facts, Tyson Fury is young, he's got time to develop, he's caught at a time where there are few worthy "dance partners" as it were, and Fury before the Chisora rematch had been out a long time, he deserves a warm up bout or two A) to get some money and B ) to get prepared for his title run.


    Now that said Tyson can take all the time he wants to he's not beating Wladimir Klitschko

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Why not the man who chinned Hammer out? A less mobile version of Wlad who Fury probably couldn't knock out with a cricket bat, perfect.
    Fury vs Wach would be a war IMO neither super huge punchers, neither like to "box", both are relatively easy to hit. I think that would be a dangerous fight for Fury at this point.

    Face facts, Tyson Fury is young, he's got time to develop, he's caught at a time where there are few worthy "dance partners" as it were, and Fury before the Chisora rematch had been out a long time, he deserves a warm up bout or two A) to get some money and B ) to get prepared for his title run.


    Now that said Tyson can take all the time he wants to he's not beating Wladimir Klitschko
    Im happy to wait for you and everyone else to be proven wrong

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    What will I be proven wrong about? Tyson Fury has shown me NOTHING to say he's a threat to Wladimir. His chin isn't all that great, his power is sub par (especially considering his size), his work rate is so-so, and his boxing ability is nowhere near Wlad's class.

    How would a Tyson Fury victory over Wladimir Klitschko happen? Explain to me the step by step process Tyson will go through to win the titles off Wlad. I know how a Wlad victory over Fury might go...either Wlad establishes the jab and boxes Fury into submission OR Wlad says "fuck this dude, I'm ending it early" and bombs Fury out with either the right cross OR the left hook because Tyson Fury has fought nobody like Wladimir, none with his skill, none with his power....Wlad has fought guys bigger than himself and he has always...repeat ALWAYS won

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    What will I be proven wrong about? Tyson Fury has shown me NOTHING to say he's a threat to Wladimir. His chin isn't all that great, his power is sub par (especially considering his size), his work rate is so-so, and his boxing ability is nowhere near Wlad's class.

    How would a Tyson Fury victory over Wladimir Klitschko happen? Explain to me the step by step process Tyson will go through to win the titles off Wlad. I know how a Wlad victory over Fury might go...either Wlad establishes the jab and boxes Fury into submission OR Wlad says "fuck this dude, I'm ending it early" and bombs Fury out with either the right cross OR the left hook because Tyson Fury has fought nobody like Wladimir, none with his skill, none with his power....Wlad has fought guys bigger than himself and he has always...repeat ALWAYS won
    Furys work rate is not "so so" his boxing ability does not include mostly hugging, holding, leaning etc. wlads chin also is well below greatness. How many times has he been stopped? Dropped?

    Fury is a threat and you know it.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Furys work rate is not "so so" his boxing ability does not include mostly hugging, holding, leaning etc. wlads chin also is well below greatness. How many times has he been stopped? Dropped?

    Fury is a threat and you know it.
    People have been saying "I'm going to check Wladimir's glass chin" for TEN YEARS NOW! and there have been guys who are a lot better punchers than Tyson Fury that have said that.

    Complain about clinching all you like, Wlad wins fights, he wins by KO, and he'll KO Tyson Fury...hate to break it to you but that WILL happen.

    Fury's workrate is pedestrian, he's been knocked down by a CRUISERWEIGHT who had like 10-12 stoppages out of 25 wins at the time....so don't tell me Wlad's chin is the one that's dodgy.


    What power puncher has Fury fought? What top boxer has Fury fought? Wlad is the BEST in the division and there is absolutely 0 argument about it (among sane people)

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