Does anybody care about the Cruiserweight division?

[ykdadamaja]

There is no great difference between a Great Cruiser and a Great LH that is 5 or 6 pounds overweight at fight night.

It's a waste of a division...

Oh so you don't think that Cruisers come in shape now?

What about the cruisers that come in around 210-215lbs at fight night? O'Neil Bell, Mormeck?

Are they just LightHeavies who tuck a few extra hamburgers in overnight too?

First the HW division is overweight, now the cruisers are too?

GTFOOH!

Talent wise... I would put Chad Dawson up against any Cruiser- and Dawson is on his downslide- and he would be no better or worst fighting a good LH. Punch power, skill, speed and stamina.

The weight classes are due a revision... and while we are at it, the 135 to 147 weight divisions are being abused.

[Max Power]

There is no great difference between a Great Cruiser and a Great LH that is 5 or 6 pounds overweight at fight night.

It's a waste of a division...

Oh so you don't think that Cruisers come in shape now?

What about the cruisers that come in around 210-215lbs at fight night? O'Neil Bell, Mormeck?

Are they just LightHeavies who tuck a few extra hamburgers in overnight too?

First the HW division is overweight, now the cruisers are too?

GTFOOH!

Talent wise... I would put Chad Dawson up against any Cruiser- and Dawson is on his downslide- and he would be no better or worst fighting a good LH. Punch power, skill, speed and stamina.

The weight classes are due a revision... and while we are at it, the 135 to 147 weight divisions are being abused.

You may have a case for eliminating Jr. divisions but not cruiser.

There will be a "super-cruiser" or something in time when it becomes necessary.

You can no longer expect light-HW's at 175 to make the enormous jump into the HW division where the average boxer is now 235-240lbs. That is a jump of 60lbs!

I see an appreciable level of talent at Cruiser and there have been excellent boxers come out of that division exclusively.

The division prior to HW will always be a launch pad for HW, it's just how it plays out.

[ykdadamaja]

There is no great difference between a Great Cruiser and a Great LH that is 5 or 6 pounds overweight at fight night.

It's a waste of a division...

Oh so you don't think that Cruisers come in shape now?

What about the cruisers that come in around 210-215lbs at fight night? O'Neil Bell, Mormeck?

Are they just LightHeavies who tuck a few extra hamburgers in overnight too?

First the HW division is overweight, now the cruisers are too?

GTFOOH!

Talent wise... I would put Chad Dawson up against any Cruiser- and Dawson is on his downslide- and he would be no better or worst fighting a good LH. Punch power, skill, speed and stamina.

The weight classes are due a revision... and while we are at it, the 135 to 147 weight divisions are being abused.

You may have a case for eliminating Jr. divisions but not cruiser.

There will be a "super-cruiser" or something in time when it becomes necessary.

You can no longer expect light-HW's at 175 to make the enormous jump into the HW division where the average boxer is now 235-240lbs. That is a jump of 60lbs!

I see an appreciable level of talent at Cruiser and there have been excellent boxers come out of that division exclusively.

The division prior to HW will always be a launch pad for HW, it's just how it plays out.

Then we should adjust the weight limit of the LH's... A middle fighting at Super Middle is fine. A Middle at LH can work over time. But there really is no difference in size and ability of a 175 guy and a 185 guy. No difference.

[La Cucaracha]

There is no great difference between a Great Cruiser and a Great LH that is 5 or 6 pounds overweight at fight night.

It's a waste of a division...

Oh so you don't think that Cruisers come in shape now?

What about the cruisers that come in around 210-215lbs at fight night? O'Neil Bell, Mormeck?

Are they just LightHeavies who tuck a few extra hamburgers in overnight too?

First the HW division is overweight, now the cruisers are too?

GTFOOH!

Talent wise... I would put Chad Dawson up against any Cruiser- and Dawson is on his downslide- and he would be no better or worst fighting a good LH. Punch power, skill, speed and stamina.

The weight classes are due a revision... and while we are at it, the 135 to 147 weight divisions are being abused.

You may have a case for eliminating Jr. divisions but not cruiser.

There will be a "super-cruiser" or something in time when it becomes necessary.

You can no longer expect light-HW's at 175 to make the enormous jump into the HW division where the average boxer is now 235-240lbs. That is a jump of 60lbs!

I see an appreciable level of talent at Cruiser and there have been excellent boxers come out of that division exclusively.

The division prior to HW will always be a launch pad for HW, it's just how it plays out.

Then we should adjust the weight limit of the LH's... A middle fighting at Super Middle is fine. A Middle at LH can work over time. But there really is no difference in size and ability of a 175 guy and a 185 guy. No difference.

What about the other 15 pounds

[Silkeyjoe]

There is no great difference between a Great Cruiser and a Great LH that is 5 or 6 pounds overweight at fight night.

It's a waste of a division...

Oh so you don't think that Cruisers come in shape now?

What about the cruisers that come in around 210-215lbs at fight night? O'Neil Bell, Mormeck?

Are they just LightHeavies who tuck a few extra hamburgers in overnight too?

First the HW division is overweight, now the cruisers are too?

GTFOOH!

Talent wise... I would put Chad Dawson up against any Cruiser- and Dawson is on his downslide- and he would be no better or worst fighting a good LH. Punch power, skill, speed and stamina.

The weight classes are due a revision... and while we are at it, the 135 to 147 weight divisions are being abused.

You may have a case for eliminating Jr. divisions but not cruiser.

There will be a "super-cruiser" or something in time when it becomes necessary.

You can no longer expect light-HW's at 175 to make the enormous jump into the HW division where the average boxer is now 235-240lbs. That is a jump of 60lbs!

I see an appreciable level of talent at Cruiser and there have been excellent boxers come out of that division exclusively.

The division prior to HW will always be a launch pad for HW, it's just how it plays out.

Then we should adjust the weight limit of the LH's... A middle fighting at Super Middle is fine. A Middle at LH can work over time. But there really is no difference in size and ability of a 175 guy and a 185 guy. No difference.

my god your posts just get worse and worse. First of all. LHW is 175. Cruiser is 200. The size difference is pretty similar if not more then a MW and a LHW, which is 3 divisions compared to 2. Second of all abolishing the Cruiser would mean a guy would jump from fighting 175 pound guys to 240+ which again is stupid. So you make the change to 185 or 190. Its still a big jump but possibly acceptable but what do the poor super middleweights then do? Jump from 168 to 190? Cmon man think before you speak.

The obvious eliminations are the jr divisions. Jr Fly, Jr Bantom and Jr Feather are unneccessary for me and just makes winning belts in multi weight classes easy and pretty meaningless.

[Max Power]

There is no great difference between a Great Cruiser and a Great LH that is 5 or 6 pounds overweight at fight night.

It's a waste of a division...

Oh so you don't think that Cruisers come in shape now?

What about the cruisers that come in around 210-215lbs at fight night? O'Neil Bell, Mormeck?

Are they just LightHeavies who tuck a few extra hamburgers in overnight too?

First the HW division is overweight, now the cruisers are too?

GTFOOH!

Talent wise... I would put Chad Dawson up against any Cruiser- and Dawson is on his downslide- and he would be no better or worst fighting a good LH. Punch power, skill, speed and stamina.

The weight classes are due a revision... and while we are at it, the 135 to 147 weight divisions are being abused.

You may have a case for eliminating Jr. divisions but not cruiser.

There will be a "super-cruiser" or something in time when it becomes necessary.

You can no longer expect light-HW's at 175 to make the enormous jump into the HW division where the average boxer is now 235-240lbs. That is a jump of 60lbs!

I see an appreciable level of talent at Cruiser and there have been excellent boxers come out of that division exclusively.

The division prior to HW will always be a launch pad for HW, it's just how it plays out.

Then we should adjust the weight limit of the LH's... A middle fighting at Super Middle is fine. A Middle at LH can work over time. But there really is no difference in size and ability of a 175 guy and a 185 guy. No difference.

my god your posts just get worse and worse. First of all. LHW is 175. Cruiser is 200. The size difference is pretty similar if not more then a MW and a LHW, which is 3 divisions compared to 2. Second of all abolishing the Cruiser would mean a guy would jump from fighting 175 pound guys to 240+ which again is stupid. So you make the change to 185 or 190. Its still a big jump but possibly acceptable but what do the poor super middleweights then do? Jump from 168 to 190? Cmon man think before you speak.

The obvious eliminations are the jr divisions. Jr Fly, Jr Bantom and Jr Feather are unneccessary for me and just makes winning belts in multi weight classes easy and pretty meaningless.

I can only agree with SilkyJoe.

The Jr. divisions are pretty meaningless now, basically undermined by guys fighting very often now at catchweights.

[Silkeyjoe]

There is no great difference between a Great Cruiser and a Great LH that is 5 or 6 pounds overweight at fight night.

It's a waste of a division...

Oh so you don't think that Cruisers come in shape now?

What about the cruisers that come in around 210-215lbs at fight night? O'Neil Bell, Mormeck?

Are they just LightHeavies who tuck a few extra hamburgers in overnight too?

First the HW division is overweight, now the cruisers are too?

GTFOOH!

Talent wise... I would put Chad Dawson up against any Cruiser- and Dawson is on his downslide- and he would be no better or worst fighting a good LH. Punch power, skill, speed and stamina.

The weight classes are due a revision... and while we are at it, the 135 to 147 weight divisions are being abused.

You may have a case for eliminating Jr. divisions but not cruiser.

There will be a "super-cruiser" or something in time when it becomes necessary.

You can no longer expect light-HW's at 175 to make the enormous jump into the HW division where the average boxer is now 235-240lbs. That is a jump of 60lbs!

I see an appreciable level of talent at Cruiser and there have been excellent boxers come out of that division exclusively.

The division prior to HW will always be a launch pad for HW, it's just how it plays out.

LMFAO Dawson would be killed in the ring against the likes of Lebedev, Chakhiev, Huck. Huck went toe to toe with Povetkin, a top 5 heavy FFS

[Spicoli]

There is no great difference between a Great Cruiser and a Great LH that is 5 or 6 pounds overweight at fight night.

It's a waste of a division...

Oh so you don't think that Cruisers come in shape now?

What about the cruisers that come in around 210-215lbs at fight night? O'Neil Bell, Mormeck?

Are they just LightHeavies who tuck a few extra hamburgers in overnight too?

First the HW division is overweight, now the cruisers are too?

GTFOOH!

Talent wise... I would put Chad Dawson up against any Cruiser- and Dawson is on his downslide- and he would be no better or worst fighting a good LH. Punch power, skill, speed and stamina.

The weight classes are due a revision... and while we are at it, the 135 to 147 weight divisions are being abused.

The same talented Dawson who came in 202 lbs a fight before last, and then was out punched and even outboxed in spots but the world renowned Tommy Karpency