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Froch Clearly can't be bothered with the fight, but if it's made, he won't take Degale lightly , he learnt that lesson from the Groves fights to be fair. If the fight is made , Froch will win on points. To take the title on points , you have to win rounds pretty convincingly and I don't think Degale works hard enough for 3 minutes every round to do that. admittedly , his last 2 fights have been much better, but I'm not totally convinced. I'm not convinced Degale would beat Groves either, and within 18 months , Callum Smith will mop the lot up.
i hear what you are saying dude but is this not utter bollox really
Not sure what you mean, but you don't take the title from a champion by "shading" rounds or boxing for 1 or 1/2 minutes a round. Any doubt and the Champion gets given the round. Right or wrong, that's the way it is. Clear?
dude, again i hear what you are saying and i hear people say that a lot

but really its a myth (utter bollox)

plenty of people have nicked titles

its more true that you dont take a title from a fighter unless you win big because you are fighting in their back yard under their promotion

at times you can win big and still not win the title (ricky burns v raymund beltrum)

if a champion takes his title to another fighters back yard under the challengers promotion then the champion often has to win big (ricky burns v roman martinez)

in fact, if any fighter is fighting another fighter in their back yard under their promotion then they usually have to win big title or no title (prescott v Mclousky and many more)

i wont finish my post with "Clear?" because that would be gay
Ok , here we go again! "plenty of people have nicked titles" OK my Pedigree Chum (forgive me, if that's "Gay" , but Who?
I agree about fighters in their opponents back yard or on their promotion bill. The old saying" you have to knock him out just to get a draw " is relevant all around the World, including the UK.
an example of what I'm saying is Froch v Groves 1 . At least one Judge had the Rounds even (one point difference for the knockdown.) when it was clear to everyone that Froch only won one round out of 8! I don't believe that is just about the promotion or the location, that is about taking a World Title.
Having said that I believe we aren't very far away from each other in what we're saying, probably both spitting hairs a bit. CLEAR?