"We Don't Kill Civilians": 2 trapped terrorists say to hostages

[ryanman]

That little town northeast of grand ol' Paris is going to be famous for a wild shoot-out in just a few moments. The 2 "suspects" are holed up in that printing factory and are telling the workers that they do not kill civilians.

I guess those Charlie Hebdo dudes and gals were Military Police or Secret Service then....

It will all be over soon, ..... not soon enough though. Let's hope they don't kill anymore "non-civilians" before this comes to its inevitable bloody end. Or do you want to see them taken alive? That's a right-ass good question now, ain't it, boys? Dead or alive? Which'd you prefer?

Yeah, intelligence is not the strong suit of these guys.

Dead or alive? Alive probably. As I think dying would be preferable to them.

Good points, Ryan. Yes they would prefer it as it is a holy martyrdom in their eyes, a rightful jihad. Looks like it will end in a bloody mess, they are well-trained, and may take down a few more b4 its all over. This whole thing really sucks, upsetting shit, what is the solution? More security? hasnt worked with all the already-existing security everywhere like Big Brother. Wish I knew.

Wish I knew too. I agree that as Islam is a very 'top down' religion then steps need to be taken from their Imams down. I just don't think as extreme as you in the actions that need to be taken (like close all mosques - if you do actually think that).

[brocktonblockbust]

That little town northeast of grand ol' Paris is going to be famous for a wild shoot-out in just a few moments. The 2 "suspects" are holed up in that printing factory and are telling the workers that they do not kill civilians.

I guess those Charlie Hebdo dudes and gals were Military Police or Secret Service then....

It will all be over soon, ..... not soon enough though. Let's hope they don't kill anymore "non-civilians" before this comes to its inevitable bloody end. Or do you want to see them taken alive? That's a right-ass good question now, ain't it, boys? Dead or alive? Which'd you prefer?

Yeah, intelligence is not the strong suit of these guys.

Dead or alive? Alive probably. As I think dying would be preferable to them.

Good points, Ryan. Yes they would prefer it as it is a holy martyrdom in their eyes, a rightful jihad. Looks like it will end in a bloody mess, they are well-trained, and may take down a few more b4 its all over. This whole thing really sucks, upsetting shit, what is the solution? More security? hasnt worked with all the already-existing security everywhere like Big Brother. Wish I knew.

Wish I knew too. I agree that as Islam is a very 'top down' religion then steps need to be taken from their Imams down. I just don't think as extreme as you in the actions that need to be taken (like close all mosques - if you do actually think that).

of course I dont. Jesus Christ. I myself attended 2 mosques 5 times a day (Teaneck, NJ and Union City, NJ) from 1991-1993. The Teaneck masjid was 90% Pakistanis and INdian Muslims, but the Union City masjid was 90% Arabs (Syrians, Jordanians, Egyptians, Sudanese). I myself took the Shahadda and received the name of Abdul Haqq from the imam at the Teaneck masjid in 1991. I have hundreds of Muslim friends, and none of them are terrorists. Funny thing was, I couldnt go to make Salaat with my Iranian friends (even had a Persian fiancee back then) because they were all Shi 'a and I was a sunni. (WAS, I say, which could be dangerous!)

Even when they found out I didnt subscribe to that religion anymore, there were no calls of apostasy against me. I still go in once in a while here in Turkey to make the noonday prayer on Monday and Friday. I feel good to make the prayer. But I also go into Hindu temples with my wife and make those prayers as well. It feels good and their is a magic quality about it all. She is a Hindu but doesnt really believe in all the rules.

[ryanman]

That little town northeast of grand ol' Paris is going to be famous for a wild shoot-out in just a few moments. The 2 "suspects" are holed up in that printing factory and are telling the workers that they do not kill civilians.

I guess those Charlie Hebdo dudes and gals were Military Police or Secret Service then....

It will all be over soon, ..... not soon enough though. Let's hope they don't kill anymore "non-civilians" before this comes to its inevitable bloody end. Or do you want to see them taken alive? That's a right-ass good question now, ain't it, boys? Dead or alive? Which'd you prefer?

Yeah, intelligence is not the strong suit of these guys.

Dead or alive? Alive probably. As I think dying would be preferable to them.

Good points, Ryan. Yes they would prefer it as it is a holy martyrdom in their eyes, a rightful jihad. Looks like it will end in a bloody mess, they are well-trained, and may take down a few more b4 its all over. This whole thing really sucks, upsetting shit, what is the solution? More security? hasnt worked with all the already-existing security everywhere like Big Brother. Wish I knew.

Wish I knew too. I agree that as Islam is a very 'top down' religion then steps need to be taken from their Imams down. I just don't think as extreme as you in the actions that need to be taken (like close all mosques - if you do actually think that).

of course I dont. Jesus Christ. I myself attended 2 mosques 5 times a day (Teaneck, NJ and Union City, NJ) from 1991-1993. The Teaneck masjid was 90% Pakistanis and INdian Muslims, but the Union City masjid was 90% Arabs (Syrians, Jordanians, Egyptians, Sudanese). I myself took the Shahadda and received the name of Abdul Haqq from the imam at the Teaneck masjid in 1991. I have hundreds of Muslim friends, and none of them are terrorists.

Even when they found out I didnt subscribe to that religion anymore, there were no calls of apostasy against me. I still go in once in a while here in Turkey to make the noonday prayer on Monday and Friday. I feel good to make the prayer. But I also go into Hindu temples with my wife and make those prayers as well. It feels good and their is a magic quality about it all. She is a Hindu but doesnt really believe in all the rules.

See I didn't think you did. But if you say things like that you got to know that people will think you DO think that, it's understandable. Which you might not be bothered about but it seems like you don't want people to think you're that simplistic in approach (which I don't think you are). I guess the thing with a forum you can say things in haste and they are there in text, even if one minute later you wouldn't have said the same thing.

[brocktonblockbust]

That little town northeast of grand ol' Paris is going to be famous for a wild shoot-out in just a few moments. The 2 "suspects" are holed up in that printing factory and are telling the workers that they do not kill civilians.

I guess those Charlie Hebdo dudes and gals were Military Police or Secret Service then....

It will all be over soon, ..... not soon enough though. Let's hope they don't kill anymore "non-civilians" before this comes to its inevitable bloody end. Or do you want to see them taken alive? That's a right-ass good question now, ain't it, boys? Dead or alive? Which'd you prefer?

Yeah, intelligence is not the strong suit of these guys.

Dead or alive? Alive probably. As I think dying would be preferable to them.

Good points, Ryan. Yes they would prefer it as it is a holy martyrdom in their eyes, a rightful jihad. Looks like it will end in a bloody mess, they are well-trained, and may take down a few more b4 its all over. This whole thing really sucks, upsetting shit, what is the solution? More security? hasnt worked with all the already-existing security everywhere like Big Brother. Wish I knew.

Wish I knew too. I agree that as Islam is a very 'top down' religion then steps need to be taken from their Imams down. I just don't think as extreme as you in the actions that need to be taken (like close all mosques - if you do actually think that).

of course I dont. Jesus Christ. I myself attended 2 mosques 5 times a day (Teaneck, NJ and Union City, NJ) from 1991-1993. The Teaneck masjid was 90% Pakistanis and INdian Muslims, but the Union City masjid was 90% Arabs (Syrians, Jordanians, Egyptians, Sudanese). I myself took the Shahadda and received the name of Abdul Haqq from the imam at the Teaneck masjid in 1991. I have hundreds of Muslim friends, and none of them are terrorists.

Even when they found out I didnt subscribe to that religion anymore, there were no calls of apostasy against me. I still go in once in a while here in Turkey to make the noonday prayer on Monday and Friday. I feel good to make the prayer. But I also go into Hindu temples with my wife and make those prayers as well. It feels good and their is a magic quality about it all. She is a Hindu but doesnt really believe in all the rules.

See I didn't think you did. But if you say things like that you got to know that people will think you DO think that, it's understandable. Which you might not be bothered about but it seems like you don't want people to think you're that simplistic in approach (which I don't think you are). I guess the thing with a forum you can say things in haste and they are there in text, even if one minute later you wouldn't have said the same thing.

thats right, its common sense, if you wrote something crazy I would know you were just pissed off, or you were overwhelmed with emotion at that moment. I would not be a DICK-HEAD and conclude that you really meant that stuff, I would not get on any Moral High ground Soap Box and start calling you names. I would not do that. I would know it wasnt really meant literally, its common sense mate. A little bit of chilling out/lightening up and not being so goddam serious and some common sense goes a long way. Glad you understand that, some people are so quick to take everything so goddam seriously and hastily, it takes ALL THE FUN OUT OF A FUCKING BOXING FORUM, OFF TOPIC.

[Gandalf]

Take them alive and put the fuckers on trial. None of this, 'they kill so we kill them' business. Do it right, let's have some evidence provided and see what it was really all about. Just cartoons? What? I want to know. People deserve to know the truth.

[Beanflicker]

A quick shooting death is too good for them, they should be caught and burned alive.

[walrus]

Well, so much for being taken alive. I would have liked to have seen them captured. Pope Francis called for us Catholics to pray for them, so their hearts would turn. Never good to wish anyone dead, eye for an eye leaves us all blind.

[Andre]

Look out it will ignite, here comes the press with the sword pen out!

I have an inkling pen is short for penis these days.

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