Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
I disagree J.

RJJ @ MW & LHW had compubox numbers that were silly-stupid in his favor.

I think if we researched those stats we'd find Roy was the least hit fighter...since Floyd.


But there is a myth about RJJ's chin in the amatuers- durable.
When he lost his 3rd bid at the GG...he was a two time winner. He faced Gerald McCellan and they banged.

I know the fighter who talked about but cant think of his name right now. He was one of the amatuers who fought & said it was a war! McCellan won, but he had to wait out a few weeks from a sore jaw.

RJJ was actually able to fight the very next week.
I never paid attention to the numbers. They can be inflated. I've seen him hit enough times to know if he was chinny or not based on how the punch was thrown, landed and how ready he was for it. He wasn't chinny but I wouldn't say he had a granite chin either. He rolled very well and was careful about his positioning. Also take into account that Aside from the headgear and the +2 oz weight difference in gloves from the pros, that many fighters in the GG aren't really polished yet either. I've seen lots of kids in the GG that are not fully turning their punches over, generating power from their stance, their waist and not snapping hooks at the elbows. Not saying roy or the G-man weren't. Its not as bad as the olympics in terms of encouraging numbers instead of power, but its not like the pros. There just tends to be a difference.
It's no biggie, though I am hard pressed to think what fight Roy had, where I can remember anyone landing more than a few punches ...up till Montell Griffin- 34 fights into his career.

Griffin did some hard hitting in fight two...but that was the canvas he hit hard.


Serioulsy, Devalle & Harding are really the only two names I can think of- up till Tarver & Johnson.

Toney was outclassed- even though he fucked himself by trying to lose what? 20-30lbs inbetween fights? RJJ never got close to being hit with the shit Toney lands on others.

Ruiz got clowned..& with the help of Jay nady who ensured he couldn't fight inside/grappling- Roy never got chin checked by a heavy who dropped Holy.

& the dude I was thinking of is IceMan John Scully.
He wrote a book awhile back where he talks about the war that was never taped between RJJ and Gman.

I use to correspond with him on a few boards and he always deciminated some cool under the radar knowledge.