Chris Eubank Jnr thought he didn't lose to Saunders

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I dont think Eubank won just because a judge said so and people in the crowd also thought so. I used those as examples to prove how its not ridiculous for anyone to think Eubank won.

I based my opinion on what I saw and from my experience as an actual boxer and judge.

What do you base your opinion on?

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I dont think Eubank won just because a judge said so and people in the crowd also thought so. I used those as examples to prove how its not ridiculous for anyone to think Eubank won.

I based my opinion on what I saw and from my experience as an actual boxer and judge.

What do you base your opinion on?

Sometimes in the arena, you can get a distorted view of how the fight is going, so I watched it very carefully twice over, first time with no volume. And to be honest I think Saunders was spot on. He won the first six rounds and won 2 out of the next 6. That means he won the fight comfortably by 4 rounds. Eubank wasn't helped by his Dad posing in front of him in the corner, and the only reason he started slowly was that he couldn't suss out what to do to combat Saunders tactics, and he refuses to allow Davis to talk or listen when he does. That is the biggest fuckin joke in the World.

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I dont think Eubank won just because a judge said so and people in the crowd also thought so. I used those as examples to prove how its not ridiculous for anyone to think Eubank won.

I based my opinion on what I saw and from my experience as an actual boxer and judge.

What do you base your opinion on?

Sometimes in the arena, you can get a distorted view of how the fight is going, so I watched it very carefully twice over, first time with no volume. And to be honest I think Saunders was spot on. He won the first six rounds and won 2 out of the next 6. That means he won the fight comfortably by 4 rounds. Eubank wasn't helped by his Dad posing in front of him in the corner, and the only reason he started slowly was that he couldn't suss out what to do to combat Saunders tactics, and he refuses to allow Davis to talk or listen when he does. That is the biggest fuckin joke in the World.

Saunders didn't win all the first 6 at all. There was a couple of rounds minimum in the first half Eubank won. My view was not distorted. As an ex judge I'm looking at the work both produce and not the overall impression by any one fighter. As an amateur judge its difficult to watch or enjoy a fight as you are counting both fighters punches at the same time and you learn how to do it proficiently. Although pro isn't scored like amateur on number of punches landed solely if you land more punches than your opponent generally you are going to win the round, unless your not putting any effort or steam on those punches.

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I dont think Eubank won just because a judge said so and people in the crowd also thought so. I used those as examples to prove how its not ridiculous for anyone to think Eubank won.

I based my opinion on what I saw and from my experience as an actual boxer and judge.

What do you base your opinion on?

Sometimes in the arena, you can get a distorted view of how the fight is going, so I watched it very carefully twice over, first time with no volume. And to be honest I think Saunders was spot on. He won the first six rounds and won 2 out of the next 6. That means he won the fight comfortably by 4 rounds. Eubank wasn't helped by his Dad posing in front of him in the corner, and the only reason he started slowly was that he couldn't suss out what to do to combat Saunders tactics, and he refuses to allow Davis to talk or listen when he does. That is the biggest fuckin joke in the World.

Saunders didn't win all the first 6 at all. There was a couple of rounds minimum in the first half Eubank won. My view was not distorted. As an ex judge I'm looking at the work both produce and not the overall impression by any one fighter. As an amateur judge its difficult to watch or enjoy a fight as you are counting both fighters punches at the same time and you learn how to do it proficiently. Although pro isn't scored like amateur on number of punches landed solely if you land more punches than your opponent generally you are going to win the round, unless your not putting any effort or steam on those punches.

Well, it's all about opinions I suppose, and no disrespect to you being an ex Judge, but I've seen judges give poor decisions as you have seen also no doubt.I'm not putting you in that bracket, just saying.
Nonetheless , I notice you never answered my remarks about Fury's experience or Eubank's arrogance, so I'll take it you concede and agree on those points.

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I didnt notice any comments about experience or arrogance.

If you are saying Tyson is not experienced enough thats not entirely his own fault. David Haye pulled out twice, he tried making a replacement fight with Wilder, that didnt come off and then Chisor pulled out and his trainer pulled him out of the replacement because his trainers brother was dying.

As for arrogance, so what? Its only arrogance. Its not the ignorance that spouts out of Saunders mouth. You know Tyson Fury got fined for saying lesser things than saunders did but its terrible that a boxer should believe in himself?

Whats the most terrbile thing that Eubank Jr has said that someone could take offence at?

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[QUOTE=ross;1297621]I didnt notice any comments about experience or arrogance.

If you are saying Tyson is not experienced enough thats not entirely his own fault. David Haye pulled out twice, he tried making a replacement fight with Wilder, that didnt come off and then Chisor pulled out and his trainer pulled him out of the replacement because his trainers brother was dying.

As for arrogance, so what? Its only arrogance. Its not the ignorance that spouts out of Saunders mouth. You know Tyson Fury got fined for saying lesser things than saunders did but its terrible that a boxer should believe in himself?

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What I said was that you used the "who has he fought" line of thinking to dismiss Browne, and I'm saying for the purpose of consistency , use the same criteria for Fury. I'm not saying it's his fault and I'm not even saying that he couldn't mix it with the top guys perhaps, but to say he "easily" beats most of the top guys based on what he's done so far and I notice in another thread you also say Chisora would probably beat Stiverne that kinda justifies it, I think is unrealistic.
as for Eubank jr, firstly I'm not talking about ignorant stuff BJS spouts off, I'm talking about Eubank. It deeply offends me, any boxer and any boxing fan to hear a good novice who previously has never fought at British title level and never gone past 8 rounds say "if something is going wrong, I don't need telling, I KNOW how to put it right", and that Ronnie Davis is only there to "apply Vaseline" and then to turn around in the middle of a fight and tell your trainer to "stop talking." they offend me, my intelligence and show a complete lack of respect .
think of the most arrogant boxers you can, in a good or bad way, (e.g. Ali, Froch, Groves, SRL, Fury, Broner , Floyd, Mayorga, Eubank Sr. even) and tell me if any of them have had as much disrespect or said anything like that.