So does anyone think Wilder can beat Wlad?

[Fenster]

I thought Wilder was the most dangerous opponent for Wlad before Saturday. Have no idea how anyone can think his power is overrated? Anyone he hits is getting hurt.

If he sparked out Wlad in one round I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised.

[smashup]

I thought Wilder was the most dangerous opponent for Wlad before Saturday. Have no idea how anyone can think his power is overrated? Anyone he hits is getting hurt.

If he sparked out Wlad in one round I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised.

He's got power but i don't think it's anywhere as impressive as any of us hoped stepping up to World Level.

Let's be honest here, i think most of us thought he'd bang Stiverne out for the count or force the ref to stop it when he landed his big punches but for me it isn't the same type of power someone like Lennox carried in his right hand as an example.

[Fenster]

I thought Wilder was the most dangerous opponent for Wlad before Saturday. Have no idea how anyone can think his power is overrated? Anyone he hits is getting hurt.

If he sparked out Wlad in one round I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised.

He's got power but i don't think it's anywhere as impressive as any of us hoped stepping up to World Level.

Let's be honest here, i think most of us thought he'd bang Stiverne out for the count or force the ref to stop it when he landed his big punches but for me it isn't the same type of power someone like Lennox carried in his right hand as an example.

I see it the complete opposite to you Smash.

I didn't think Wilder showed a lack of power - it looked deadly to me - I saw Stiverne being much tougher than I and most thought. Wilder wouldn't beat Lennox Lewis in a million years apart from the couple of times he landed good ones and ironed him out.

[Spicoli]

His power may be fine but its his delivery and leaky recovery that leaves him in very vulnerable spot. The arsenal is pretty basic, jab, straight right and very little body work. That lead wide uppercut is an accident waiting to happen. I can't see him jabbing with a two handed master jabber like Wlad and that mauling added on those thin legs would not go well at this stage I believe. Basically for his size and height I don't think Wildrr is all that strong.

[smashup]

His power may be fine but its his delivery and leaky recovery that leaves him in very vulnerable spot. The arsenal is pretty basic, jab, straight right and very little body work. That lead wide uppercut is an accident waiting to happen. I can't see him jabbing with a two handed master jabber like Wlad and that mauling added on those thin legs would not go well at this stage I believe. Basically for his size and height I don't think Wildrr is all that strong.

That's exactly how i see him now he's faced a solid opponent.

I really don't think he's as strong as people seem to think.

I think Wlads left hook will land because Wilder leaves himself so wide open and someone with his (Wlads) size and reach is very easily gonna exploit that opening and land.

[Kirkland Laing]

Wilder broke his right hand early in the fight which probably explains why it went twelve. If he doesn't manage to break his hand against Junior he can win. Junior can't jab and grab all night against somebody the same size as him but with the same reach and more mobile.

At some point Wilder will manage to land something substantial and Junior's china chin is going to have to stand up to that right hand.

[redxiii]

I think a Zelenoff rematch is in order first...

I kid, I kid...

[Spicoli]

His power may be fine but its his delivery and leaky recovery that leaves him in very vulnerable spot. The arsenal is pretty basic, jab, straight right and very little body work. That lead wide uppercut is an accident waiting to happen. I can't see him jabbing with a two handed master jabber like Wlad and that mauling added on those thin legs would not go well at this stage I believe. Basically for his size and height I don't think Wildrr is all that strong.

That's exactly how i see him now he's faced a solid opponent.

I really don't think he's as strong as people seem to think.

I think Wlads left hook will land because Wilder leaves himself so wide open and someone with his (Wlads) size and reach is very easily gonna exploit that opening and land.

One thing you miss when you have no rounds is preparing for the sheer ugliness and physicality, grinding inside with same size or tactic. Doing the rewatch on Showtime and can't get over how Wilder gets moved around. Watch the legs and feet alone, dude is or prone to be square most of the time with a step off and really, really open. He throws the exact same low hands response while straight tall. He proved a beard the other night. He went 12 rounds and kept his composure well. Earned the glory. But I think Wlad destroys him.

[walrus]

After researching the fight I have some confidence Deontay could beat Wlad. I think Wlad has too many old time tricks up his sleeve but I give Wilder some chance.

[SlimTrae]

I thought Wilder was the most dangerous opponent for Wlad before Saturday. Have no idea how anyone can think his power is overrated? Anyone he hits is getting hurt.

If he sparked out Wlad in one round I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised.

He's got power but i don't think it's anywhere as impressive as any of us hoped stepping up to World Level.

Let's be honest here, i think most of us thought he'd bang Stiverne out for the count or force the ref to stop it when he landed his big punches but for me it isn't the same type of power someone like Lennox carried in his right hand as an example.

I see it the complete opposite to you Smash.

I didn't think Wilder showed a lack of power - it looked deadly to me - I saw Stiverne being much tougher than I and most thought. Wilder wouldn't beat Lennox Lewis in a million years apart from the couple of times he landed good ones and ironed him out.

He could hang with the version of Lennox that struggled with Bruno.

Of course not the version Steward molded. Lennox grew into a force of nature overtime.

Wilder.in 33 fights still hasnt had 100 pro rounds under his belt.

[X]

At least he's quite interesting, and might revive heavyweight boxing across the pond for a while.

I suspect that he has got as far as he has because he is a magnificent physical specimen of an athlete. 6 foot 7, not fat, decent coordination and (as we now know) a decent chin and stamina too. He has sparkd out a lot of bums too, so his record has its fair share of padding.

I wonder if he has actually learnt the trade, though. His technique is pretty flawed and anyone can see he windmills those huge punches.

Fighting against the much shorter and limited Bermane was one thing, but I wonder whether he will get found out when he meets someone who he can't physically dominate. Someone like Wlad is the same size, but he has excellent technique and boxing smarts too.

The big question, of course, is the perception that Wlad is a bit chinny ....... And that does always give a big hitter a perceived chance against Wlad.

If Vitali was still fighting, I don't think I would give Deontay a cat in hell's chance against him!

[SlimTrae]

At least he's quite interesting, and might revive heavyweight boxing across the pond for a while.

I suspect that he has got as far as he has because he is a magnificent physical specimen of an athlete. 6 foot 7, not fat, decent coordination and (as we now know) a decent chin and stamina too. He has sparkd out a lot of bums too, so his record has its fair share of padding.

I wonder if he has actually learnt the trade, though. His technique is pretty flawed and anyone can see he windmills those huge punches.

Fighting against the much shorter and limited Bermane was one thing, but I wonder whether he will get found out when he meets someone who he can't physically dominate. Someone like Wlad is the same size, but he has excellent technique and boxing smarts too.

The big question, of course, is the perception that Wlad is a bit chinny ....... And that does always give a big hitter a perceived chance against Wlad.

If Vitali was still fighting, I don't think I would give Deontay a cat in hell's chance against him!

I see his (windmilling) of punches a part of zestful youth" and a sign of aggression.
This means when he smells blood he goes all out. (IMO) thats a good thing.

The youtube compilations of his KO's shows it is second nature for him- to end a fight when the oppurtunity presents itself...and that's IMO what Wlad lacks...that killer's instinct.

And most of all...Like Lennox Lewis when he started out wasn't over 230...Just imagine when Deontay fills that 6'7 power punch into 235lbs +? And learns leverage-which comes in time, man this dude is likely to hurt people each time out.
Damn!

[Memphis]

Can you imagine if he got Wlad going? He went mental when it was Audley Harrison. Imagine the carnage if he had a shot at stopping the champion of the whole world. No one at ringside would be safe from those windmills.

[smashup]

Can you imagine if he got Wlad going? He went mental when it was Audley Harrison. Imagine the carnage if he had a shot at stopping the champion of the whole world. No one at ringside would be safe from those windmills.

Are you suggesting he could do Vitali in the same fight?