So does anyone think Wilder can beat Wlad?

[SlimTrae]

@ Smashup- Legit question. He was a measuring stick, buit how good of a measuring stick?

I guess it depends on the what the individual thought going into the fight.
We did have a few different opionions here. Questions both had to answer,

On one hand Stivern did his job like he was supposed to- he won the title.
Then there is Wilder's resume.

Was Malik a decent opponent going in? I dunno, subjective I guess to each of us.

or Audley Harrison? This is the guy Haye fought to get to Wlad. Was Audly that good then.. but not when Wilder fought him, he became something other than a worthy foe? He went 3-1 since-getting starched by Price, bad or good Wilder's resume? I dunno.

Liakhovhich was a world champ- & Wilder got that on his resume. When Helenious beat Liakhovich only 3 fights ago for him..was that a bum win his record? I'm not sure how much stock of Liakhovich dropped from that to Wilder.

To me Stiverne's measuring was-
Could Wilder go 12 rounds (stamina)-Yes
Could he take a punch from a guy who isn't called a pillow puncher? Yes
If adversity comes, can he deal with it (fractured) hand-Yes
Would he fall of his game and show his youth? (NO-he stuck to the plan;lead with the jab)

Question smashup- who would be a good measuring stick for him now & what do you think that would consist of?
I have no critique for you, just to learn from a different perspctive through lenses other than my own.

[brocktonblockbust]

fury smokes wilder

[AdamGB]

Given your recent post about the size of Wilder's head, I'll take that as an omen of Wilder's victory

[nuggetdotcom]

fury smokes wilder

Dont be daft!!!!

[Hulk]

In another fight or two, I'd say he will be a very formidable challenge for Wlad.


Maybe even now, but he is pretty naïve about the clinch game and Wlad could write a book on riding, tangling up and generally holding his opponent.


Wlad's right hand and hook are more tried and true as well.


Wlad's chin though...

[armin]

Other than landing the big one and getting Wlad out of there early there isn't a way he beats Wlad, hes a very poor man's version of Wlad. Everything Wilder can do Wlad does better, I suspect Wlad's power to be better as well.

[TitoFan]

Not claiming Wilder can beat Wlad right now. The old fox knows too many tricks in order to survive.

But claiming Wilder's power is overrated is downright laughable. Yeah.... the guy has 32 knockouts in 33 fights, but his power is overrated. Let's forget about Stiverne's high guard and astonishing chin. But here's the most telling argument of all.......

How much power do you really need to break Wlad's glass jaw??
I'd go out on a limb and say Wilder has more than enough.

[brocktonblockbust]

Wilder has 14 years on wlad. Too much advantage IMO.

[Max Power]

Wladimir wins every round and knocks Wilder out with almost certainty.

It comes down to a punchers chance for Wilder.

Thing is, I don't see Wilder landing anything much of great significance on Wlad and to be honest, I learned 2 things..

Wilder's power is not totally stunning as it was against bummy opponents, but still very hard of course and...

Wlad has a strong enough chin to take some of Wilder's shots should he land any anyway.

I would say it's a fat chance.

[Max Power]

Wilder has 14 years on wlad. Too much advantage IMO.

You fool! LOL

Lennox was 38 and beat Vitali.

Vitali retired unbeaten at 41.

Foreman bombed out guys at 45.

Holyfield took it to some strong fighters at his 40's.

Larry Holmes beat Ray Mercer at 42.

Wladimir's age is the new prime. He will start to decline before too much longer though, but even then can hang on to the top for a lot longer if he likes, he's good enough.

Recently, Thompson wasted David Price, a Wilder clone, and held his own against Pulev. In his 40's.

This ain't no track meet @brocktonblockbust, it's HW boxing.

Most whipper snappers know not to fuck with the silverbacks on the street. And the same applies to pro-boxers as well I reckon.