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    Your post was hilarious, NV, but I do somewhat agree with you. Stress is typically about condemnation in some way, though I believe it is a combination of society and the self and nothing much to do with God. A healthy society means less stressed out people and a forgiving self means less burden. Surely we can reduce stress and not need God as part of the equation. A materialistic existence seems to be the bane of modern man, but you try to opt out and you end up homeless.....lots and lots of stress for everyone! Down with this sort of thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Your post was hilarious, NV, but I do somewhat agree with you. Stress is typically about condemnation in some way, though I believe it is a combination of society and the self and nothing much to do with God. A healthy society means less stressed out people and a forgiving self means less burden. Surely we can reduce stress and not need God as part of the equation. A materialistic existence seems to be the bane of modern man, but you try to opt out and you end up homeless.....lots and lots of stress for everyone! Down with this sort of thing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Your post was hilarious, NV, but I do somewhat agree with you. Stress is typically about condemnation in some way, though I believe it is a combination of society and the self and nothing much to do with God. A healthy society means less stressed out people and a forgiving self means less burden. Surely we can reduce stress and not need God as part of the equation. A materialistic existence seems to be the bane of modern man, but you try to opt out and you end up homeless.....lots and lots of stress for everyone! Down with this sort of thing!
    I think you are about to see exactly what a Godless and consciousness group of humans can and will do to both you and this planet.

    Just open your eyes and look around,China will rule some Islam will rule others, We have been out bred we have already lost. The numbers alone will do the job eventually.
    Then its "welcome to the machine. No love, no compassion (not that we have a monopoly on that) but they have large families for a reason and China has let up the one child policy so eventually they will run the whole show,then it will be do or die.

    God is love. Just humans put a human connotation to it when writing, so the ground level ones of old and some modern ones too had some understanding, some point to recon from.
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    The world may indeed be rather doomed, but I am going to try and go down with a little less stress and it will be nothing to do with God, but by simply trying to reduce the condemnation. In other words; work less, get plenty of free time, eat healthily, listen to Michael Nyman and practice my yoga. Constructive things in a healthy society.

    All that other stuff is very interesting and you make some good points, but you are seriously expanding upon the basic topic of stress as it relates to most. You can make a better society and reduce stress levels without God ever being a factor. Love is love. If you want to say that is God, then fine for you. I don't need God to know right from wrong or know what is moral and neither does anyone else, but if it helps them then jolly good for them too. I regard that as humanity. My only certainty is this and anything more is unknown and anyone who says otherwise is making it up as they are based on the same limited organic basis as me or anyone else and just don't know. I deal with reality and now and to reduce stress you need a society that doesn't oppress and work that doesn't tax and family that lets you be. No God in that, but if God helps people like Walrus or NV, then all power to them too. In the past I would mock, but not anymore. I am learning tolerance. Maybe that means I will be a deathbed Catholic, but I hope not.

    The rise of Empires is what it is, but the Chinese are no different to what came before or what will come whence. The same with Muslims. You are looking at others as the enemy and fail to see just how evil our own elite can be. They started all this and the people fall for it. For the West to improve it needs to fall or change. China is up to China and so far it hasn't invaded entire countries. Perhaps they will, but until then look closer to home for the enemy. Radical Islam....it was contained and didn't bother us for a very long time and now suddenly where did that come from? The Western elite love a stressed society, but I reject that kind of life.

    My basic theory is the same: stress = condemned by the self + society. It is fed by media, war, politics, hate, self doubt, work environment, family burdens etc. Reduce stress by eliminating the toxic elements. Go and live in Nepal if you have to, but find that peace somehow. Fearing Muslims or the Chinese is the least of my concerns....I have to drive!

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    Im not looking at them like the enemy Miles, Im a realist and I know whats coming. Consumers with no love or respect for anything.

    My government just passed a law that allows China to mine here Own the fucking mine and run under Chinese law with its own Chinese workers. In REAL TERMS Miles this means young women from certain areas in China will be promised overseas work and will be abused and raped for cash when here and will not protected by our laws. Also their workers will undercut our mining future and will be forced to work under conditions we left behind years ago.

    Big difference between allowing that and an enemy.

    By the way, everything else you said was real except you missed a major thing: Love for yourself and for all your fellow man whatever color they are will help you even more.

    Sorry i forgot : Except change because nothing is more certain.
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    Granted I don't sit praying in the temple of me which some people think I do, but I want good things for all ordinary people. It is why I want a better system with more opportunities for ordinary people, especially the young who have been robbed of their future. Rarely in any of my politics is there a vested view. I don't gain from wanting any change in this world. I could gain a lot from reduced stress though and that will be a work in progress. Preach to me, Walrus. Preach to me!

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