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    Default Re: Bermane Stiverne remains hospitalized after title bout with severe dehydration!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    I don't think people realize how serious Rhabdomyolysis is. People back in the day of less sophistication would have called it "over training". But it is a diagnosed medical condition.
    Yeah but it's not something you catch or happens for no reason, it's caused by the wrong doing of the guy who's afflicted, in this case overtraining and not consuming enough fluids. He never caught the flu, or got in a car crash, or something else beyond his control. Him and his team trained stupidly.

    So whether it's true or not, either way it comes back on him and his team. Adequate preparation is just as big a part of the sport as the actual performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    I don't think people realize how serious Rhabdomyolysis is. People back in the day of less sophistication would have called it "over training". But it is a diagnosed medical condition.
    Yeah but it's not something you catch or happens for no reason, it's caused by the wrong doing of the guy who's afflicted, in this case overtraining and not consuming enough fluids. He never caught the flu, or got in a car crash, or something else beyond his control. Him and his team trained stupidly.

    So whether it's true or not, either way it comes back on him and his team. Adequate preparation is just as big a part of the sport as the actual performance.
    Preparation is more important, you can have the edge in every category but if you don't train or train stupidly, failure and damnation is your reward.
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    Default Re: Bermane Stiverne remains hospitalized after title bout with severe dehydration!!

    I don't know how much to make of this... How hard is it to keep a heavyweights hydration levels up? It's not like he was having to dehydrate to make weight, how could his team fuck up so bad?

    As for his other diagnosis... Wouldn't be surprised if it's just King orchestrated bullshit to try and press for a rematch, we may never know I guess.

    Rhabdo is complex, there's no way to pinpoint if he started the fight with it or developed during the fight from being under conditioned.

    Either it's King spun bullshit or his team are incompetent amateurs, neither makes it a valid excuse.

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    Default Re: Bermane Stiverne remains hospitalized after title bout with severe dehydration!!

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    I don't know how much to make of this... How hard is it to keep a heavyweights hydration levels up? It's not like he was having to dehydrate to make weight, how could his team fuck up so bad?

    As for his other diagnosis... Wouldn't be surprised if it's just King orchestrated bullshit to try and press for a rematch, we may never know I guess.

    Rhabdo is complex, there's no way to pinpoint if he started the fight with it or developed during the fight from being under conditioned.

    Either it's King spun bullshit or his team are incompetent amateurs, neither makes it a valid excuse.
    I'd be interesting to know. Rhabdo is also caused by actual trauma/concussive force to the muscles. Maybe the combination of physical exertion and having a massive puncher like Deontay pounding on your arms, shoulders and body for 12 rounds caused it. I was reading about JDS getting it from a UFC fight. Combination of crazy physical exertion and 25 minutes of getting punched and wrestling along the cage.

    Either way, I never understood the whole excuse thing. When guys say "ohh I lost that fight because I didn't take it seriously/wasn't in shape/didn't train properly/had to cut too much weight/ect", I think less of them than if they just went out and lost outright.
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    He said he couldn't get off and dehydration will do that to you.
    He has a "loose shape" so defination and tone doesn't appear on him.
    Today many heavies want to hold as much weight as possible but that will backfire when you need to go the distance with someone thats on the move.
    Now we'll see what this young man is all about!! Congrates to Wilder he did better than I expected especially head movement away from outside punches. He held is own inside to a degree and when he tired he stayed away from in coming shots. Good job!
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    It's like his muscles were wasting away. Quite a shame.
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    Default Re: Bermane Stiverne remains hospitalized after title bout with severe dehydration!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ray corso View Post
    He said he couldn't get off and dehydration will do that to you.
    He has a "loose shape" so defination and tone doesn't appear on him.
    Today many heavies want to hold as much weight as possible but that will backfire when you need to go the distance with someone thats on the move.
    Now we'll see what this young man is all about!! Congrates to Wilder he did better than I expected especially head movement away from outside punches. He held is own inside to a degree and when he tired he stayed away from in coming shots. Good job!
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    He didn't look "toned" at the weigh in. In fact, he looked a little flappy and smaller. He looked like he lost muscle mass.
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    Default Re: Bermane Stiverne remains hospitalized after title bout with severe dehydration!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ray corso View Post
    He said he couldn't get off and dehydration will do that to you.
    He has a "loose shape" so defination and tone doesn't appear on him.
    Today many heavies want to hold as much weight as possible but that will backfire when you need to go the distance with someone thats on the move.
    Now we'll see what this young man is all about!! Congrates to Wilder he did better than I expected especially head movement away from outside punches. He held is own inside to a degree and when he tired he stayed away from in coming shots. Good job!
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    He didn't look "toned" at the weigh in. In fact, he looked a little flappy and smaller. He looked like he lost muscle mass.
    Show me a picture of an in shape Stiverne

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    Default Re: Bermane Stiverne remains hospitalized after title bout with severe dehydration!!

    Or show us a fight where he clearly performed better than he did the other night. There isn't one! No reason at all to suggest it was an off night, that's how he always fights and he just didn't have an answer for the range and power of Wilder, who also proved himself a capable and superior boxer.

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