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"Unemployed Britons in Europe are drawing much more in benefits and allowances in the wealthier EU countries than their nationals are claiming in the UK, despite the British government’s arguments about migrants flocking in to the country to secure better welfare payments."

Revealed: thousands of Britons on benefits across EU | UK news | The Guardian
These people aren't economic migrants. There are several million Brits in France, Spain and Italy. These are people who've bought a house abroad and moved the family. The money they're picking up will be mostly child benefit claimed by their "unemployed" mothers. There's a massive difference between a bunch of middle class Brits heading off for a life in the sun moving abroad with hundreds of thousands of pounds of assets and a bunch of dirt poor economic migrants moving the other way to slash labour rates for almost all British workers, take housing and healthcare and education resources away from native Brits and take away large numbers of their jobs.
Most illegal immigrants in this country are Australian and American. People have no problem with them.
Now I know we are talking about the migration of EU workers, but the reason most people are ok with the above, but not ok with legal migrants from the EU isn't for the reasons you have said. You may have an objective and reasoned argument against immigration but for many others their real objections are far more insidious, and you know it.
There are a lot of racist people. There is a far bigger group of people who are not racist but are threatenend by people coming into the country and undercutting them for work and employment in general, adding to the schools and doctors rolls meaning more competition for places and services, more competition and increased pricing for housing and so on. Yet if any of these people mention the effect immigration has on them they're immediately classed as racists and bigots.

It's possible for their both to be a small minority of people having racist reactions to immigration and an actual majority of the country who are affected by this but are scared to say anything or make much ofa fuss about it due to being branded racist.

The problem is that the political class don't want to talk about immigration. We have a demographic problem where we're going to have a shortage of working people to pay the pensions of an ageing population so the least worst way to deal with this is mass immigration. This is something all the parties have signed on to so the party that used to stand for workers' rights, the Labour party, who campaigned against joining what was then called the Common Market (now European Union) in 1973 because freedom of movement would cut British labour rates, is now busily smearing anybody who doesn't agree with mass immigration as a bigot.

The Conservatives love it because the people who fund the Conservative party get cheap labour and bigger profits.

This is why we're seeing the rise of UKIP and the Front National in France. Actual working people don't have anybody representing them and have politicians actually working against them. It's not going to end well.