Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
The system if allowed to continue , then it need to give people an opt out clause , if you don't want any of your taxes going to dead legs and immigrants then you should be able to have a tax rebate and opt out.
Then if the people who are happy to pay for these people , they can make up the short fall.
That seems very fair to me.
Even when you include benefits paid to working immigrants like tax credits the country is better off with them in rather than out -- until they retire and start costing serious money. But the current immigration boom kicks that can thirty odd years down the line past the time when the fiftysomethings running the country in government and the civil service have had their index-linked pensions paid by the new arrivals and then carked it. It's something for the next generations to deal with then.

What would really make things more equal is to let the chattering/political/media/professional metropolitan classes, and I'm thinking particularly London here, experience what the rest of the country has to deal with.

India produces ten million graduates a year. Far more than they need and graduates over the re are working for as little as 5k a year.

So I'm thinking send over a million visas foe English-speaking graduates. Let them come over here and let the graduate/management class in England (currently with an effective zero percent unemployment rate) feel the benfits of immigration. No more pay rises, zero hours contracts, terrified to be the first to go home every day, having to do unpaid weekends and overtime every time the phone rang and so on. Not to mention lots of them being made unemployed, house repossessions and so on. Only then would there be a change in policy. But how do you change policy? How do you pay for our demographic time bomb?