Larry Holmes: Klitschko has no jab, no heart & would be beaten by Wilder or Stiverne

[El Kabong]

Wlad has earned the right to be an ATG because he has overcome adversity in his early defeats and knock downs, being undefeated in over 10 years, beating the best out there and having more defences than anyone except Louis but he has had no career defining fights during the 10 years.

The opposition have been a joke and he has struggled against some of them on the biggest platforms to showcase his quality. Yet he does not provide that entertaining wow factor (bar his last fight).

A career defining fight is? Because I could ask about the "career defining fights" of Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis et al and we'll see how you define the term.

Opposition has been a joke? He just smashed the fuck out a gold medal winner...you know ANOTHER ONE! He's taken 0's off of a ton of fighters, he's fought the best, he's beat the best, and he's not slipped once in over 10 years give the guy a fucking break.

He's struggled? Against who? He probably hasn't lost 10 rounds in 10 years Master!

He doesn't provide excitement....people said that when he KO'd Ray Austin in 2 rounds and I'm tired as fuck of the bitching about it. Wlad fights at a higher level than anyone else out there he has 53 KO's....53 man!!! Out of 66 total fights!!!!

[Master]

Wlad has earned the right to be an ATG because he has overcome adversity in his early defeats and knock downs, being undefeated in over 10 years, beating the best out there and having more defences than anyone except Louis but he has had no career defining fights during the 10 years.

The opposition have been a joke and he has struggled against some of them on the biggest platforms to showcase his quality. Yet he does not provide that entertaining wow factor (bar his last fight).

A career defining fight is? Because I could ask about the "career defining fights" of Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis et al and we'll see how you define the term.

Opposition has been a joke? He just smashed the fuck out a gold medal winner...you know ANOTHER ONE! He's taken 0's off of a ton of fighters, he's fought the best, he's beat the best, and he's not slipped once in over 10 years give the guy a fucking break.

He's struggled? Against who? He probably hasn't lost 10 rounds in 10 years Master!

He doesn't provide excitement....people said that when he KO'd Ray Austin in 2 rounds and I'm tired as fuck of the bitching about it. Wlad fights at a higher level than anyone else out there he has 53 KO's....53 man!!! Out of 66 total fights!!!!

I said he is an ATG heavyweight what more do you want me to say.

When you are up with ATG the the second paragraph applies which all still stands.