Looking for the roots of terrorism

[Beanflicker]

The answer to finding these terrorists might be easier than they think, after all Muslims believe there is a magic man in the sky and anyone who believes that is a bit daft regardless. We all know there is no Allah and Mohammed was not his final messenger, but they believe it so why not exploit it?

Just ask them if they are terrorists, and if they say no say "ok you swear on the honour of Allah that you are not a terrorist or have terrorist thoughts"? Swearing to god and the holy bible or whatever doesn't mean shit to most people because most people know that it's all bullshit and don't take it seriously, but I don't think a terrorist would be able to lie on the name of Allah. Say "if you're lying now you also agree that Allah is shite and Mohammad fucked animals", and there's no way they could lie even to protect their own necks, so when they come clean arrest them and it's one less terrorist on the streets.

[pacfan]

I've been seriously studying every aspect of terrorism and terrorists the last several years, from socialogical, cultural, psychological aspects. Terrorism is indeed a very complex issue and it's definitely not for amateurs and needs to scrutinized in a very fair and objective manner, in all its complexity and details. After all my years of, sometimes agonizing and sleepless nights, studying this very complex issue, I have come to a conclusion that the root of all terrorism, in whatever form or wherever they may be, is no other than... hold your breaths... is no other than Bob Arum himself! Yes, that infamous fellow who manipulates the world with his guile and deception, is the root cause of all terrorism... as well as the ducking of the greatest boxer in the world...

[Andre]

The answer to finding these terrorists might be easier than they think, after all Muslims believe there is a magic man in the sky and anyone who believes that is a bit daft regardless. We all know there is no Allah and Mohammed was not his final messenger, but they believe it so why not exploit it?

Just ask them if they are terrorists, and if they say no say "ok you swear on the honour of Allah that you are not a terrorist or have terrorist thoughts"? Swearing to god and the holy bible or whatever doesn't mean shit to most people because most people know that it's all bullshit and don't take it seriously, but I don't think a terrorist would be able to lie on the name of Allah. Say "if you're lying now you also agree that Allah is shite and Mohammad fucked animals", and there's no way they could lie even to protect their own necks, so when they come clean arrest them and it's one less terrorist on the streets.

But then we would have no excuse to kidnap suspects off the streets of Europe,bag them, fly them to Czechoslovakia in the early evening on government planes and ask them nicely in a country without our jurisdictions and laws; while we pretend to get the paper work organized for them to be brought to a USA military jail for real questioning.
Think of all the jobs we would lose.This is called a war machine, its not called a war lets go ask Allah .

[Fenster]

Everyone here is a "moderate" Muslim. Lets have a show of hands. Madness.

[Beanz]

Everyone here is a "moderate" Muslim. Lets have a show of hands. Madness.

I agree that to subscribe to a doctrine in which one man or a group of men remove the need to think for yourself is madness. It is the path of least resistance. This is the problem at the heart of Islam that I have never made any bones about expressing from day one. It is incompatible with the way we think in the west and very much like the views of Christian fundamentalists who seem to also believe that there is no longer any need to follow their own heart, brain, mind or common sense. When there is an accident or tragedy people often reveal remarkable selflessness, courage and kindness and this for me reveals the true nature of humanity, it is what sets us apart from the animals. I found this video on the youtube page of the one you posted. It is remarkable how much fundamentalists have in common, and yet how different these two young men are. While there are also problems with thinking only logically and ignoring our intuition, it is the young atheist lad here who is the balanced one. He is displaying proof that even without a spiritual belief and a reliance on logic, he is clearly in touch with his own heart, mind and common sense (intuition). The Muslim guy has even forgotten how to have a conversation. Dogma and narrow man imposed thinking, has led him to just repeat parrot fashion an argument that makes no relevant sense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv071...22327029#t=221

How can any non brainwashed person believe that it is right, or in the interests of Justice or in the service of a beneficent or merciful God to stone someone to death ? Only those who do not listen to their own God given heart could believe such a thing.

[Beanz]

I should also say that one video is not the most representative way of explaining the thoughts of every moderate Muslim. Remember that the guy who saved all those Jews by hiding them in the fridge in Paris was a Muslim and the Policeman protecting the Charlie Hebdo "blasphemers" who was shot dead, was a muslim. I would be surprised to find that they were fans of stoning. I have expressed reservation and caution from day one about extremes in either direction and using arguments that could be interpreted as xenophobic. Nowhere did I call anyone a xenophobe for expressing uncomfortableness with such irrational ideologies. That is what should set us apart form extremists. The ability to vehemently disagree without acting like a different opinion is blasphemy.

[Beanflicker]

and the Policeman protecting the Charlie Hebdo "blasphemers" who was shot dead, was a muslim.

To be fair, that guy was just responding to a shooting: he didn't know who he was protecting or the motive of the shooters.

[Fenster]

The video I posted isn't meant to be representative of all muslims.

If a room full of hundreds of young "normal" people can believe in such a disgusting, barbaric, medieval form of justice, for things that are completely and utterly harmless, then it's hardly surprising that some take it a step further and start killing people. Brainwashed because of Islam.