Floyd threatens pac:- "STOP LYING"

[ruthless rocco]

steroid cheat

[Beanflicker]

Pac was a steroid bully, even the most hardcore fans would be hard pressed to deny it.

[pacfan]

Hey, I guess that's the only way to defend your boy. I'm glad we 'tards don't have go into those things to defend our boy. We can defend him on his skills, nothing else. I'm sure you envy us 'tards. Chill up, fellas.

[Beanflicker]

We can defend him on his skills, nothing else.

Floyd doesn't have skills?

Manny is an all time great and one of the best ever for sure, but he beaten in every stage of his career, he was outboxed by Morales, and outboxed and KTFO by a guy Floyd pitched a shut out against.

[pacfan]

We can defend him on his skills, nothing else.

Floyd doesn't have skills?

Manny is an all time great and one of the best ever for sure, but he beaten in every stage of his career, he was outboxed by Morales, and outboxed and KTFO by a guy Floyd pitched a shut out against.

Now you're talkin' real, atta way to go, mate. Yup he's been beaten, so has Ali, and all the other guys who took chances. There are lot of folks who sez 'since Floyd easily beat Marquez and Marquez beat Pac, it'll be doubly easy for Floyd to beat Pac.' But then, how 'bout 'since Bradley easily beat Marquez and Pac easily beat Brad, it will be doubly easy for Pac to beat Maruquez,' and you know it doesn't work that way. It's just a matter of style. Floyd style is much more closer to Bradley than Marquez. So I say, there Is a fight, if the two indeed decide to fight. As they say, style makes fights...

[ruthless rocco]

We can defend him on his skills, nothing else.

Floyd doesn't have skills?

Manny is an all time great and one of the best ever for sure, but he beaten in every stage of his career, he was outboxed by Morales, and outboxed and KTFO by a guy Floyd pitched a shut out against.

Now you're talkin' real, atta way to go, mate. Yup he's been beaten, so has Ali, and all the other guys who took chances. There are lot of folks who sez 'since Floyd easily beat Marquez and Marquez beat Pac, it'll be doubly easy for Floyd to beat Pac.' But then, how 'bout 'since Bradley easily beat Marquez and Pac easily beat Brad, it will be doubly easy for Pac to beat Maruquez,' and you know it doesn't work that way. It's just a matter of style. Floyd style is much more closer to Bradley than Marquez. So I say, there Is a fight, if the two indeed decide to fight. As they say, style makes fights...

...but Ali wasn't a steroid cheat!

Floyd tried to fight Manny clean but Manny was a steroid cheat so there was no fight.

Why would you respect someone who cheated their way to the top of a sport using steroids?

[Beanflicker]

Now you're talkin' real, atta way to go, mate. Yup he's been beaten, so has Ali, and all the other guys who took chances. There are lot of folks who sez 'since Floyd easily beat Marquez and Marquez beat Pac, it'll be doubly easy for Floyd to beat Pac.' But then, how 'bout 'since Bradley easily beat Marquez and Pac easily beat Brad, it will be doubly easy for Pac to beat Maruquez,' and you know it doesn't work that way. It's just a matter of style. Floyd style is much more closer to Bradley than Marquez. So I say, there Is a fight, if the two indeed decide to fight. As they say, style makes fights...

I don't believe in Boxing Math (a>b, b>c, a>c), like you said styles make fights and Pac is a much bigger threat to Floyd than JMM. I don't think it's an easy fight for Floyd at all, not now and not back in 2009. Floyd beat JMM because Floyd does everything that JMM does, only better. So yes, lets see the fight and see who wins. But there's no doubt to me that Manny was using PEDs.

[La Cucaracha]

Now you're talkin' real, atta way to go, mate. Yup he's been beaten, so has Ali, and all the other guys who took chances. There are lot of folks who sez 'since Floyd easily beat Marquez and Marquez beat Pac, it'll be doubly easy for Floyd to beat Pac.' But then, how 'bout 'since Bradley easily beat Marquez and Pac easily beat Brad, it will be doubly easy for Pac to beat Maruquez,' and you know it doesn't work that way. It's just a matter of style. Floyd style is much more closer to Bradley than Marquez. So I say, there Is a fight, if the two indeed decide to fight. As they say, style makes fights...

I don't believe in Boxing Math (a>b, b>c, a>c), like you said styles make fights and Pac is a much bigger threat to Floyd than JMM. I don't think it's an easy fight for Floyd at all, not now and not back in 2009. Floyd beat JMM because Floyd does everything that JMM does, only better. So yes, lets see the fight and see who wins. But there's no doubt to me that Manny was using PEDs.

Yeah, don't you just wish you had some proof

[chris6878]

We can defend him on his skills, nothing else.

Floyd doesn't have skills?

Manny is an all time great and one of the best ever for sure, but he beaten in every stage of his career, he was outboxed by Morales, and outboxed and KTFO by a guy Floyd pitched a shut out against.

Let me fight you 500 times, im sure to win one. YOu just named two losses....thats a lot of evidence, and if I remember correctly, morales one the first one and got koed the last two.

[Beanflicker]

We can defend him on his skills, nothing else.

Floyd doesn't have skills?

Manny is an all time great and one of the best ever for sure, but he beaten in every stage of his career, he was outboxed by Morales, and outboxed and KTFO by a guy Floyd pitched a shut out against.

Let me fight you 500 times, im sure to win one. YOu just named two losses....thats a lot of evidence, and if I remember correctly, morales one the first one and got koed the last two.

For sure Pac came back hard against Morales (who was washed up by that time), but I'm bringing it up because we've seen Pac get flustered and even outclassed several times. We've NEVER seen that happen to Mayweather. Floyd has been given trouble, sure, but he's always been able to adjust. Manny doesn't have that capability. Manny has Plan A and that's it. Don't get me wrong, his Plan A is a great plan, but he was never able to adjust to match JMM.

And this isn't a "Pac Fans vs PBF fans" thing either. Mayweather isn't in my top 15 favourite current fighters to be honest. I think he's a scumbag personally. I'm just a realist and have to give the devil his due, Mayweather is the best boxing talent since SRR. People can deny it and make excuses all they want, but at the end of the day Mayweather did it better than almost anyone we've seen in a boxing ring. Pac was a great, great fighter, a true warrior and action fighter who deserves all the respect in the world, but at the end of the day Mayweather was the better fighter.

[ruthless rocco]

Pacquiao was a steroid cheat when he fought Morales.

[Rantcatrat]

Hey, I guess that's the only way to defend your boy. I'm glad we 'tards don't have go into those things to defend our boy. We can defend him on his skills, nothing else. I'm sure you envy us 'tards. Chill up, fellas.

"Pactard," you're few and far between on these boards. Brace yourself for a fight.

[pacfan]

steroid cheat

Here's your lollipop, kiddo. (Now that should keep him quiet while we men talk real boxing.)

Now you're talkin' real, atta way to go, mate. Yup he's been beaten, so has Ali, and all the other guys who took chances. There are lot of folks who sez 'since Floyd easily beat Marquez and Marquez beat Pac, it'll be doubly easy for Floyd to beat Pac.' But then, how 'bout 'since Bradley easily beat Marquez and Pac easily beat Brad, it will be doubly easy for Pac to beat Maruquez,' and you know it doesn't work that way. It's just a matter of style. Floyd style is much more closer to Bradley than Marquez. So I say, there Is a fight, if the two indeed decide to fight. As they say, style makes fights...

I don't believe in Boxing Math (a>b, b>c, a>c), like you said styles make fights and Pac is a much bigger threat to Floyd than JMM. I don't think it's an easy fight for Floyd at all, not now and not back in 2009. Floyd beat JMM because Floyd does everything that JMM does, only better. So yes, lets see the fight and see who wins. But there's no doubt to me that Manny was using PEDs.

I beg to disagree there. Marquez and Floyd have a quite different style. Marquez is the best pure counter-puncher around, and no doubt Floyd is the best defensive fighter but there is a big difference between the two. Marquez thrives with offensive fighters. He waits for 'em, that's his forte. Floyd uses his defensive techniques and takes pot-shots trying to thwart his opponents offense and scoring points at the same time, but again he tries his best to keep 'em away, not like Marquez who, like a coiled snake, waits for 'em. Floyd actually hates strongly offensive-minded fighters, that's why lots of people say that he ducked the some fighters in their primes, all who happen to be the best offensive fighters. But I will not go into that because I don't need to, just mentioning it to prove my point. That's why when almost all experts dismissed Maidana, I came here boldly saying that he can give Floyd some trouble. Why? Simply because I know Floyd's style very well and because Maidana was the best offensive-minded slugger, who throws tons of lousy punches, that Floyd has faced since Castillo. And you probably know Manny can do much better than that; for one, he doesn't throw lousy punches... and he's the best offensive fighter out there...

steroid cheat

...now give me back my lollipop...

[powerpuncher]

the problem is that even if this fight happens, pac fans will still make excuses like floyd just waited until pac was older and less dangerous. the only thing i blame floyd for is not pushing harder for the fight. he seems to laxidasical about the whole situation. i dont blame him for anything else though.

[Beanflicker]

steroid cheat

Here's your lollipop, kiddo. (Now that should keep him quiet while we men talk real boxing.)

Now you're talkin' real, atta way to go, mate. Yup he's been beaten, so has Ali, and all the other guys who took chances. There are lot of folks who sez 'since Floyd easily beat Marquez and Marquez beat Pac, it'll be doubly easy for Floyd to beat Pac.' But then, how 'bout 'since Bradley easily beat Marquez and Pac easily beat Brad, it will be doubly easy for Pac to beat Maruquez,' and you know it doesn't work that way. It's just a matter of style. Floyd style is much more closer to Bradley than Marquez. So I say, there Is a fight, if the two indeed decide to fight. As they say, style makes fights...

I don't believe in Boxing Math (a>b, b>c, a>c), like you said styles make fights and Pac is a much bigger threat to Floyd than JMM. I don't think it's an easy fight for Floyd at all, not now and not back in 2009. Floyd beat JMM because Floyd does everything that JMM does, only better. So yes, lets see the fight and see who wins. But there's no doubt to me that Manny was using PEDs.

I beg to disagree there. Marquez and Floyd have a quite different style. Marquez is the best pure counter-puncher around, and no doubt Floyd is the best defensive fighter but there is a big difference between the two. Marquez thrives with offensive fighters. He waits for 'em, that's his forte. Floyd uses his defensive techniques and takes pot-shots trying to thwart his opponents offense and scoring points at the same time, but again he tries his best to keep 'em away, not like Marquez who, like a coiled snake, waits for 'em. Floyd actually hates strongly offensive-minded fighters, that's why lots of people say that he ducked the some fighters in their primes, all who happen to be the best offensive fighters. But I will not go into that because I don't need to, just mentioning it to prove my point. That's why when almost all experts dismissed Maidana, I came here boldly saying that he can give Floyd some trouble. Why? Simply because I know Floyd's style very well and because Maidana was the best offensive-minded slugger, who throws tons of lousy punches, that Floyd has faced since Castillo. And you probably know Manny can do much better than that; for one, he doesn't throw lousy punches... and he's the best offensive fighter out there...

steroid cheat

...now give me back my lollipop...

How can JMM be the best pure counter puncher when Mayweather counter punched the shit out of him for 12 rounds? It's like saying Paulie Malignaggi is a better pure boxer than Amir Khan, after Amir boxed the shit out of him all night.

And yeah, Manny is a great offensive dynamo, but when was the last time he finished someone? Cotto, nearly 6 years ago.