Will we ever see White or Christian/Catholic suicide bombers/Extremist in the future?

[Gandalf]

Maybe not suicide bombers, but we have the death machine equivalent in drones and illegal invasion.

[ryanman]

Maybe not suicide bombers, but we have the death machine equivalent in drones and illegal invasion.

Not in the name of Christianity or Catholicism.

[IamInuit]

Maybe not suicide bombers, but we have the death machine equivalent in drones and illegal invasion.

Not in the name of Christianity or Catholicism.

It only seems to be terrorism when it’s against us and done by those that don’t have jets.

We should first define the term but definitions can also be designed, misused or circular leading nowhere but back to word attempting to be defined and really void of a definition.

I’m not sure it matters that we name “Christianity” before we drop the bombs. To those receiving the payload its part of Christianity. For those who see us sleeping with Israel, its Christianity.

Terrorism= the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

We don’t needs to strap bombs to ourselves. We’re in charge.

[ryanman]

Maybe not suicide bombers, but we have the death machine equivalent in drones and illegal invasion.

Not in the name of Christianity or Catholicism.

It only seems to be terrorism when it’s against us and done by those that don’t have jets.

We should first define the term but definitions can also be designed, misused or circular leading nowhere but back to word attempting to be defined and really void of a definition.

I’m not sure it matters that we name “Christianity” before we drop the bombs. To those receiving the payload its part of Christianity. For those who see us sleeping with Israel, its Christianity.

Terrorism= the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

We don’t needs to strap bombs to ourselves. We’re in charge.

But that doesn't really address the question in the thread. The actions of western governments aren't examples of Christian and/or Catholic extremism.
As I said there have been plenty of examples of Christian and Catholic extremism in the past (and still now although not to the violent extremes) but the western governments are not engaging in activities under the banner of Christianity.
For some reason you seem to think that I said that western governments do not engage in acts that could be defined as 'terrorism' but that isn't the question I was addressing.

[ryanman]

Maybe not suicide bombers, but we have the death machine equivalent in drones and illegal invasion.

Not in the name of Christianity or Catholicism.

It only seems to be terrorism when it’s against us and done by those that don’t have jets.

We should first define the term but definitions can also be designed, misused or circular leading nowhere but back to word attempting to be defined and really void of a definition.

I’m not sure it matters that we name “Christianity” before we drop the bombs. To those receiving the payload its part of Christianity. For those who see us sleeping with Israel, its Christianity.

Terrorism= the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

We don’t needs to strap bombs to ourselves. We’re in charge.

Also, with respect, you seem to be painting Islamic extremists as victims somehow and that they exist as a response to the actions of western governments.

That analysis doesn't work when looking at ISIS or Boko Haram for example.
Western foreign policy may have been a cited reason behind prominent Jihadi groups in the past but it can't explain ISIS (who had no interest in the west and were not fighting oppression but simply seeking to impose their will on the people of Syria and Iraq) and it can't explain Boko Haram (who would quite like the west to carry on ignoring their barbarism).

Also, 'it's only terrorism when it's against us' is certainly not a mode of thinking I fall into. Remember that the vast majority of the victims of ISIS or the Taliban are Muslim. Also, the forces on the ground fighting these guys are also Muslim.

I do not see ISIS as predominately a west vs Islam thing. It is an evil group vs other Muslims/anyone in their way/anyone that doesn't agree to their demands thing.

[IamInuit]

Maybe not suicide bombers, but we have the death machine equivalent in drones and illegal invasion.

Not in the name of Christianity or Catholicism.

It only seems to be terrorism when it’s against us and done by those that don’t have jets.

We should first define the term but definitions can also be designed, misused or circular leading nowhere but back to word attempting to be defined and really void of a definition.

I’m not sure it matters that we name “Christianity” before we drop the bombs. To those receiving the payload its part of Christianity. For those who see us sleeping with Israel, its Christianity.

Terrorism= the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

We don’t needs to strap bombs to ourselves. We’re in charge.

Also, with respect, you seem to be painting Islamic extremists as victims somehow and that they exist as a response to the actions of western governments.

That analysis doesn't work when looking at ISIS or Boko Haram for example.
Western foreign policy may have been a cited reason behind prominent Jihadi groups in the past but it can't explain ISIS (who had no interest in the west and were not fighting oppression but simply seeking to impose their will on the people of Syria and Iraq) and it can't explain Boko Haram (who would quite like the west to carry on ignoring their barbarism).

Also, 'it's only terrorism when it's against us' is certainly not a mode of thinking I fall into. Remember that the vast majority of the victims of ISIS or the Taliban are Muslim. Also, the forces on the ground fighting these guys are also Muslim.

I do not see ISIS as predominately a west vs Islam thing. It is an evil group vs other Muslims/anyone in their way/anyone that doesn't agree to their demands thing.

That is a pretty broad brush you are using there. I'm going to have to call Godwins law.


I can go pretty far on the intolerance scale when these people do the acts they do but I can also call our side on the shit they do. The demarcation line drawn by western culture seems to be the methods used. A jet or ground invasion by tanks almost seems benign or sterile but a beheading, suicide bomber or gun attack is viewed as something different when philosophically the end result is the same. We also seem to place more value on our lives then we do theirs.

[Andre]

Maybe not suicide bombers, but we have the death machine equivalent in drones and illegal invasion.

Not in the name of Christianity or Catholicism.

It only seems to be terrorism when it’s against us and done by those that don’t have jets.

We should first define the term but definitions can also be designed, misused or circular leading nowhere but back to word attempting to be defined and really void of a definition.

I’m not sure it matters that we name “Christianity” before we drop the bombs. To those receiving the payload its part of Christianity. For those who see us sleeping with Israel, its Christianity.

Terrorism= the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

We don’t needs to strap bombs to ourselves. We’re in charge.

Terrorism= the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

Going by that definition we are in charge of the largest systematic use of it but our use is spread out and called warfare/detention, interrogation, vengeance and or justice instead of the poorer version which is more pointed locally and therefore more personal and more emotive.

[El Kabong]

Why would you listen to Al Gore? Well because he has been placed on the pedestal by the Democrats and other lefties, he won a Nobel Peace Prize, he won an Academy Award and all for "his work to fight Anthropogenic Global Warming" meanwhile he lives the life of a hypocrite which is why I mention him so frequently regarding this issue, because he's the BEST example of liberal hypocrisy! But by no means is he alone in being a hypocrite on global warming, plenty of the famous actors, musicians, models, they're all about "saving the Earth" but what do they really do about it? Carbon offsets Nothing more than a new take on purchasing indulgences from the Catholic Church and where does that money go Oh only to a company Al Gore owns....no NOT the "news channel" he sold to oil barons Al Jazeera, nah, this is another company which I am certain is funded with the oil money from Al Jazeera....but I mean there's no need to worry about a conflict of interests or hypocrisy there.


Who the fuck shoots rhinos Beanz? Certainly not the average hunter, poachers more like it and YES poachers are horrible people and they should all be wiped out.

[Andre]

Yeah they should of been honest from the start and called it climate shift or climate change.
They could still charge us for chasing the new extremities all round globe trying to balance them then.
Smart boys for cash, instead called it warming and now tax your emissions because apparently air is still free so they couldnt tax it on that end of you so thought about the other end of you instead and tax that (I know its shit isnt it).

[El Kabong]

Yeah they should of been honest from the start and

...explain that it's no different than plate tectonics which occurs naturally regardless of human activity

[Beanz]

Why would you listen to Al Gore? Well because he has been placed on the pedestal by the Democrats and other lefties, he won a Nobel Peace Prize, he won an Academy Award and all for "his work to fight Anthropogenic Global Warming" meanwhile he lives the life of a hypocrite which is why I mention him so frequently regarding this issue, because he's the BEST example of liberal hypocrisy! But by no means is he alone in being a hypocrite on global warming, plenty of the famous actors, musicians, models, they're all about "saving the Earth" but what do they really do about it? Carbon offsets Nothing more than a new take on purchasing indulgences from the Catholic Church and where does that money go Oh only to a company Al Gore owns....no NOT the "news channel" he sold to oil barons Al Jazeera, nah, this is another company which I am certain is funded with the oil money from Al Jazeera....but I mean there's no need to worry about a conflict of interests or hypocrisy there.


Who the fuck shoots rhinos Beanz? Certainly not the average hunter, poachers more like it and YES poachers are horrible people and they should all be wiped out.

I don't think all poachers should be wiped out. At least not the ones that in their easily led, misspent youth, might have accidentally shot the odd rabbit and other game, on someone else's land, that accidentally fell into their mothers outside larder for hanging, and was accidentally made into a delicious stew. I think a severe reprimand should be enough for them, to go with the, "Gypsy scum", shouts of the games keeper, and the sound of his shotgun still ringing in their ears.

[Gandalf]

Maybe not suicide bombers, but we have the death machine equivalent in drones and illegal invasion.

Not in the name of Christianity or Catholicism.

Mr Bush is a Christian and Mr Blair is a Catholic. I tend to think extremism is about occupation and resistance. Not always, and there are examples you cite, but in most cases it is to do with regimes meddling in places that they are not wanted and in turn people get violent back. The big difference is that one uses a military and one uses whatever is at hand. They are one and the same and both feed off the other in an eternal loop. The one thing we can do is stop occupation. I expect if the UK was ever invaded by a Sharia state you would see an increase in Catholic/Christian/Atheist resistance movements.

[Andre]

Maybe not suicide bombers, but we have the death machine equivalent in drones and illegal invasion.

Not in the name of Christianity or Catholicism.

The 'religious majority' of the public who fund our western governments war machines belive we are the side of righteousness (as mentioned in the bible on side with Israel)and they prey in one or two of those institutions you mentioned. So from the outside looking in you cant blame the opposition thinking it; when they see our leaders doing all their ceremonies within churches and calling upon God in Jesus name to bless all our soldiers leaving to foreign shores and the same for the dead on their return.