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Maybe not suicide bombers, but we have the death machine equivalent in drones and illegal invasion.
Not in the name of Christianity or Catholicism.
It only seems to be terrorism when it’s against us and done by those that don’t have jets.

We should first define the term but definitions can also be designed, misused or circular leading nowhere but back to word attempting to be defined and really void of a definition.

I’m not sure it matters that we name “Christianity” before we drop the bombs. To those receiving the payload its part of Christianity. For those who see us sleeping with Israel, its Christianity.

Terrorism= the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

We don’t needs to strap bombs to ourselves. We’re in charge.

Also, with respect, you seem to be painting Islamic extremists as victims somehow and that they exist as a response to the actions of western governments.

That analysis doesn't work when looking at ISIS or Boko Haram for example.
Western foreign policy may have been a cited reason behind prominent Jihadi groups in the past but it can't explain ISIS (who had no interest in the west and were not fighting oppression but simply seeking to impose their will on the people of Syria and Iraq) and it can't explain Boko Haram (who would quite like the west to carry on ignoring their barbarism).

Also, 'it's only terrorism when it's against us' is certainly not a mode of thinking I fall into. Remember that the vast majority of the victims of ISIS or the Taliban are Muslim. Also, the forces on the ground fighting these guys are also Muslim.

I do not see ISIS as predominately a west vs Islam thing. It is an evil group vs other Muslims/anyone in their way/anyone that doesn't agree to their demands thing.
That is a pretty broad brush you are using there. I'm going to have to call Godwins law.


I can go pretty far on the intolerance scale when these people do the acts they do but I can also call our side on the shit they do. The demarcation line drawn by western culture seems to be the methods used. A jet or ground invasion by tanks almost seems benign or sterile but a beheading, suicide bomber or gun attack is viewed as something different when philosophically the end result is the same. We also seem to place more value on our lives then we do theirs.