bring back 15 round fights

[IamInuit]

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15 round title fights would improve the quality of the sport from fighter to viewer.

In what way exactly? Longer fights = more energy conservation. People don't want to see long drawn out fights.

I never understood the logic for 15 round fights. Generally less action and energy expenditure per round, and more risk of permanent injury, dehydration, ect for the fighter. Its hard to get behind any idea that a) won't draw in new fans and b) makes it harder for the athletes involved in one of the hardest sports to compete in.

People are interested in explosive displays of athleticism. Said it before and I'll say it again, thats why everyone in the world has heard of Usain Bolt and he's considered the fastest man in the world. No one is asking him to run a marathon to prove he's the fastest. No one gives a shit.

I think it would force athletes to be in better shape. Not sure whether it would draw more or not as it has not been done in over 25 years. The injury thing is a fallacy. More people have died and been injured in 12s then 15s and the change had nothing to do with safety or health concerns even though the attempted to sell it that way.

15 round fights do nothing to take away explosive displays. Never heard that before and some of the best rounds in history are 13 to 15. Leonard would have lost to Hearns had it been 12 and lost to Hagler had it been 15 and close fights and shitty calls imo would not happen near as much. It would have helped fights like Hop/Taylor 1 and 2 and countless others.

Each to their own. I prefer 15 for title fights.

[beenKOed]

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15 round title fights would improve the quality of the sport from fighter to viewer.

In what way exactly? Longer fights = more energy conservation. People don't want to see long drawn out fights.

I never understood the logic for 15 round fights. Generally less action and energy expenditure per round, and more risk of permanent injury, dehydration, ect for the fighter. Its hard to get behind any idea that a) won't draw in new fans and b) makes it harder for the athletes involved in one of the hardest sports to compete in.

People are interested in explosive displays of athleticism. Said it before and I'll say it again, thats why everyone in the world has heard of Usain Bolt and he's considered the fastest man in the world. No one is asking him to run a marathon to prove he's the fastest. No one gives a shit.

I think it would force athletes to be in better shape. Not sure whether it would draw more or not as it has not been done in over 25 years. The injury thing is a fallacy. More people have died and been injured in 12s then 15s and the change had nothing to do with safety or health concerns even though the attempted to sell it that way.

15 round fights do nothing to take away explosive displays. Never heard that before and some of the best rounds in history are 13 to 15. Leonard would have lost to Hearns had it been 12 and lost to Hagler had it been 15 and close fights and shitty calls imo would not happen near as much. It would have helped fights like Hop/Taylor 1 and 2 and countless others.

Each to their own. I prefer 15 for title fights.

Have to go against you on this one. I don't see where the payoff is for the fans. You'll have longer, slower paced fights, which sucks!
They'll never go back to 15 rounders, in my opinion.

[Lepinthehood]

Good discussion here.

[IamInuit]

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15 round title fights would improve the quality of the sport from fighter to viewer.

In what way exactly? Longer fights = more energy conservation. People don't want to see long drawn out fights.

I never understood the logic for 15 round fights. Generally less action and energy expenditure per round, and more risk of permanent injury, dehydration, ect for the fighter. Its hard to get behind any idea that a) won't draw in new fans and b) makes it harder for the athletes involved in one of the hardest sports to compete in.

People are interested in explosive displays of athleticism. Said it before and I'll say it again, thats why everyone in the world has heard of Usain Bolt and he's considered the fastest man in the world. No one is asking him to run a marathon to prove he's the fastest. No one gives a shit.

I think it would force athletes to be in better shape. Not sure whether it would draw more or not as it has not been done in over 25 years. The injury thing is a fallacy. More people have died and been injured in 12s then 15s and the change had nothing to do with safety or health concerns even though the attempted to sell it that way.

15 round fights do nothing to take away explosive displays. Never heard that before and some of the best rounds in history are 13 to 15. Leonard would have lost to Hearns had it been 12 and lost to Hagler had it been 15 and close fights and shitty calls imo would not happen near as much. It would have helped fights like Hop/Taylor 1 and 2 and countless others.

Each to their own. I prefer 15 for title fights.

Have to go against you on this one. I don't see where the payoff is for the fans. You'll have longer, slower paced fights, which sucks!
They'll never go back to 15 rounders, in my opinion.

Probably not but its because of economics and not anything to do with boxing. The reason they changed it to begin with was that 12 rds fit into an hour long format on tv not because Mancini beat Kim to death. It suited commercials better and it never ran over other shows. Given that boxing is more event based then legacy based I doubt it changes and based on the coddling and pussification of the sport and society in general I suspect 12 will turn to 8 by the middle of this century

[beenKOed]

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15 round title fights would improve the quality of the sport from fighter to viewer.

In what way exactly? Longer fights = more energy conservation. People don't want to see long drawn out fights.

I never understood the logic for 15 round fights. Generally less action and energy expenditure per round, and more risk of permanent injury, dehydration, ect for the fighter. Its hard to get behind any idea that a) won't draw in new fans and b) makes it harder for the athletes involved in one of the hardest sports to compete in.

People are interested in explosive displays of athleticism. Said it before and I'll say it again, thats why everyone in the world has heard of Usain Bolt and he's considered the fastest man in the world. No one is asking him to run a marathon to prove he's the fastest. No one gives a shit.

I think it would force athletes to be in better shape. Not sure whether it would draw more or not as it has not been done in over 25 years. The injury thing is a fallacy. More people have died and been injured in 12s then 15s and the change had nothing to do with safety or health concerns even though the attempted to sell it that way.

15 round fights do nothing to take away explosive displays. Never heard that before and some of the best rounds in history are 13 to 15. Leonard would have lost to Hearns had it been 12 and lost to Hagler had it been 15 and close fights and shitty calls imo would not happen near as much. It would have helped fights like Hop/Taylor 1 and 2 and countless others.

Each to their own. I prefer 15 for title fights.

Have to go against you on this one. I don't see where the payoff is for the fans. You'll have longer, slower paced fights, which sucks!
They'll never go back to 15 rounders, in my opinion.

Probably not but its because of economics and not anything to do with boxing. The reason they changed it to begin with was that 12 rds fit into an hour long format on tv not because Mancini beat Kim to death. It suited commercials better and it never ran over other shows. Given that boxing is more event based then legacy based I doubt it changes and based on the coddling and pussification of the sport and society in general I suspect 12 will turn to 8 by the middle of this century

Like you say, it's whatever you like.

I don't care for the 15 rounders. I can't see that adding those three rounds will improve boxing in any way.
Sorry, I just can't see any benefit to the fighters, the fans, or boxing.

[brocktonblockbust]

you think you are special or about you are a privilege lot of rules just because you were born in 1958 well guess what I was born in 1250 BC you don't know anything about Egyptian monuments or Sumerian planets which are revolving around the Sun you can all go away soon so I don't have to listen to your nonsense anymore Marvin Hagler is definitely knocked out john the Beast Mugabep about you are a privilege lot of rules just because you were born inecial 1958 well guess what I was born in 1250 BC you don't know anything about Egyptian monuments or Sumerian planets which are revolving around the Sun you can all go away soon so I don't have to listen to your nonsense anymore

[Gandalf]

15 is the ultimate test and if you can master that then you may consider yourself TBE. Floyd is not TBE as he never gone the full distance to even prove he is the best. All the true greats did 15 rounds. 12 rounds is enough time to spoil and clinch to run down the clock. 15 rounds would show who is who. It's only 45 minutes, but 36 minutes, is diluting it down to something silly.

[Beanflicker]

I think it would force athletes to be in better shape. Not sure whether it would draw more or not as it has not been done in over 25 years. The injury thing is a fallacy. More people have died and been injured in 12s then 15s and the change had nothing to do with safety or health concerns even though the attempted to sell it that way.

15 round fights do nothing to take away explosive displays. Never heard that before and some of the best rounds in history are 13 to 15. Leonard would have lost to Hearns had it been 12 and lost to Hagler had it been 15 and close fights and shitty calls imo would not happen near as much. It would have helped fights like Hop/Taylor 1 and 2 and countless others.

Each to their own. I prefer 15 for title fights.

I don't think fighters being out of shape is a problem, I consider boxing and MMA athletes to be the finest conditioned athletes in the world. I don't believe athletes in the 70s were any better conditioned than athletes today, actually logic would say it's vice versa with the superior sport science and nutrition. For every modern example you can think of where guys gassed out, I can give you one from the 15-round era.

It would not draw more, because nobody would give a shit. If you engage in a strenuous, dangerous activity for 45 minutes as opposed to 36 minutes, you're leaving yourself more open injury just on logic alone. But when you factor in what we know about concussions and about the vulnerability of the brain as the body becomes more and more dehydrated, it's not opinion, it's science.

If a fighter has to fight for 15 rounds, he's going to be more apt to conserve energy to go the distance than he would if he was fighting 4, 8, 10, or 12 rounds. That's just logic. And yeah 15 rounders would cut back on draws and controversies, but that's because it's an odd number of rounds. The same effect could be achieved by making bouts 11 or 13 rounds.

It's fine if you like 15 rounders, there's enough that happened in boxing to enjoy, I just have no idea why any true boxing fan would advocate something that makes it harder on the athletes and won't draw any more money to the sport.