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    Default Re: How many fights does Wlad have left... and who will those opponents be

    I'm about 50% on Wlad, which basically means I agree he's strong, athletic, and obviously at the top of the heap. The technically sound part again I'm about 50%. He knows how to use his size to his advantage... and has obviously learned a thing or two about protecting his chin. But at the same time IMO he lacks the technical skills that would allow him to fight dangerous punchers without making a stinker of a fight. Povetkin, Sultan, Haye. All crappy fights because Wlad used questionable tactics to win the fights. He's definitely a great HW, but again I don't know about the ATG part, because it's tough to gauge a fighter's greatness when the rest of the division has been so abysmal.

    But back to speculating on Wlad's next opponents... I guess that pretty much leaves us with little other than possible fights against Wilder and/or Fury. There's other names floating around the rankings, but they're not even worth mentioning at this point.

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    Default Re: How many fights does Wlad have left... and who will those opponents be

    Wilder has the credibility over Fury at this point. Fury is a dumb ass as he should have been at the very least padding his resume with 5, 6 7 knockouts since 2012. Big dude like that all young and shit, he should be fighting every 90 days and knocking bums out----

    Wlad/Wilder is the fight right now----I think Stiverne scores a few KOs and redeems himself and may be eligible to fight the winner of wome of these fights. I think Stiv beats 2 opponents and then gets his title back.

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    Agreed on Fury. If he wants to make himself more relevant in the division, he needs to make short work of Christian Hammer (interesting combination of names there) and start making some real noise. None of these frigging HW's are nearly busy enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Wilder has the credibility over Fury at this point. Fury is a dumb ass as he should have been at the very least padding his resume with 5, 6 7 knockouts since 2012. Big dude like that all young and shit, he should be fighting every 90 days and knocking bums out----

    Wlad/Wilder is the fight right now----I think Stiverne scores a few KOs and redeems himself and may be eligible to fight the winner of wome of these fights. I think Stiv beats 2 opponents and then gets his title back.
    Not Furys fault. He tried taking on supposedly one of the most dangerous fighters in the world only to have him baulk and pull out twice and waste a year of his career. Then chisora pulled out.

    Wilder has the credibility in your eyes because you thought Stiverne was good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Wilder has the credibility over Fury at this point. Fury is a dumb ass as he should have been at the very least padding his resume with 5, 6 7 knockouts since 2012. Big dude like that all young and shit, he should be fighting every 90 days and knocking bums out----

    Wlad/Wilder is the fight right now----I think Stiverne scores a few KOs and redeems himself and may be eligible to fight the winner of wome of these fights. I think Stiv beats 2 opponents and then gets his title back.
    Not Furys fault. He tried taking on supposedly one of the most dangerous fighters in the world only to have him baulk and pull out twice and waste a year of his career. Then chisora pulled out.

    Wilder has the credibility in your eyes because you thought Stiverne was good.
    true I thought Stiv was good and I still think he's good, but Wilder fights like every 4 months, but Fury has had how many fihgts since 2012?

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    Default Re: How many fights does Wlad have left... and who will those opponents be

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
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    Wilder has the credibility over Fury at this point. Fury is a dumb ass as he should have been at the very least padding his resume with 5, 6 7 knockouts since 2012. Big dude like that all young and shit, he should be fighting every 90 days and knocking bums out----

    Wlad/Wilder is the fight right now----I think Stiverne scores a few KOs and redeems himself and may be eligible to fight the winner of wome of these fights. I think Stiv beats 2 opponents and then gets his title back.
    Not Furys fault. He tried taking on supposedly one of the most dangerous fighters in the world only to have him baulk and pull out twice and waste a year of his career. Then chisora pulled out.

    Wilder has the credibility in your eyes because you thought Stiverne was good.
    true I thought Stiv was good and I still think he's good, but Wilder fights like every 4 months, but Fury has had how many fihgts since 2012?
    He had 3 pull out on him.

    The level of opposition that Wilder had been facing was a joke. If. Tyson had been fighting them hed get shot the same as Wilder was so its not really anything to boast about how often he was fighting. If anything, he should have been fighting more often with the journeymen he was facing.

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    Default Re: How many fights does Wlad have left... and who will those opponents be

    Wlad will fight Jenning, Fury/Wilder winner, Olympics gold and retire
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    Default Re: How many fights does Wlad have left... and who will those opponents be

    Stiverne
    Wilder
    Fury
    Arreola
    Jennings (for sure)

    Regardless of the win loss, he will most likely wrap up with having fought all of these men.

    If Fury/Wilder does not happen for the WBC scrap after Wlad fights Jennings, he will have an off fight with Briggs and then still fight the rest of them.

    I see another 2 and 1/2 years before he retires... two fights this year, and two to three for next year depending on how easy the fights are.

    But with soft punchers like Jennings and Arreola on the list, then he can get it done within 2 and 1/2 years.
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    Default Re: How many fights does Wlad have left... and who will those opponents be

    This is as good a guess as any... and I certainly hope he doesn't retire before facing at least these opponents. Actually, what I really hope is that Wilder gets another 2-3 good fights under his belt.... and then faces Wlad. Hopefully Wlad won't suddenly decide there's something else he needs to be doing, and retire.

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    Default Re: How many fights does Wlad have left... and who will those opponents be

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    This is as good a guess as any... and I certainly hope he doesn't retire before facing at least these opponents. Actually, what I really hope is that Wilder gets another 2-3 good fights under his belt.... and then faces Wlad. Hopefully Wlad won't suddenly decide there's something else he needs to be doing, and retire.
    Why would Wilder need 2-3 good fights before fighting Wlad Regardless Wlad ain't going anywhere without unifying the belts

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    It's also about Wlad fighting strategically to his benefit which has earned him a place among the greats....whereas if he fought just for the fan's approval he probably doesn't reach these heights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    But at the same time IMO he lacks the technical skills that would allow him to fight dangerous punchers without making a stinker of a fight.
    I think that's the definition of technical, though. The more technical a guy is, the less action you're going to get. His style of boxing from the outside and tying guys up on the inside has been used all throughout HW history, from Ali and Holmes even going back to Gene Tunney. Ray Robinson did it all the time to strong guys like Lamotta. Can't fault him for being big: the goal of every boxer is to learn how to use his physical and athletic gifts as effectively as possible with technique and strategy. He tailored his style to his body type, just like Tyson's was tailored to his.

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    Default Re: How many fights does Wlad have left... and who will those opponents be

    Like Holyfield: he's extraordinarily built, ripped & cut to be headed to 40yrs old. Based on what he's taking/eating: seems like he could fight till he's Hopkins' age.

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    We're still in the steroid era, that's the reason why these guys are fighting so long.
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    Default Re: How many fights does Wlad have left... and who will those opponents be

    Only interesting fights around for him right now where there is a slight chance he could lose is Fury or Wilder. I'm not commenting on any of the prospects because anything can happen in heavyweight boxing and none of them have been tested yet

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