Scientific Fraud

[El Kabong]

"its a numbers only game and aimed politically for one side or the others advancement"

Politically AND monetarily as well. The scientists doing studies like this get grant money from the government....if there's no Anthropogenic Global Warming then there's no crisis, if there's no crisis then politicians can't convince the populace to give up rights/liberty/money, and if that doesn't happen then what good are the scientists to the politicians?

But hey these are teeny tiny discrepancies it's not like anything peer reviewed has lost any credibili.......Dr. Lennart Bengtsson "believes a paper he co-authored was deliberately suppressed from publication in a leading journal because of an intolerance of dissenting views about climate change by scientists who peer-reviewed the work.”.....ty DAMNIT!!!!!


“The problem we have now in the scientific community is that some scientists are mixing up their scientific role with that of climate activist,” - Dr. Lennart Bengtsson


Dr. Bengtsson was effectively drummed out of The Global Warming Policy Foundation for....any guess He's not a "denier" of Global Warming, not even really a "denier" of Anthropogenic Global Warming.......so what did he do to get his colleagues all pissy at him? He made the mistake of DARING to wonder if Anthropogenic effects on Global Warming were big enough to be a crisis.

But you must protect the narrative.....at all costs, ain't that right bcollins?

[Julius Rain]

This is always a fun topic. I'm skeptical first on everything because I avoid becoming a sheep. People always want to be afraid of something. I don't buy into people claims of global warming. How much info or data do you have to compare? How do you know this isn't normal routine for our planet? It may have not happen in certain areas for centuries but does that really mean in won't happen and changes are inevitable imo especially how planets survival.

[SlimTrae]

God that chick talking started slow but what she said made me think.

So basically they get the highest daily temperatures onto a graph and the lowest daily temperatures onto a graph over each year; then draw a line through the high and low points to see if the line is a rise or a fall. In this one TOWN's case the high points rise and the low points fall.

In reality (Out here in Australia) that is because of where that town is situated.

In the real world; In mid summer out here,(Inland) there is little cloud and what is there is thin and high cloud formation sirrus type of stuff no low or thick to hold in the warmth coming off the ground from during the days heat.

This makes our inland and northern nights freezing literally and our days like an oven.

Then you have other types of summer days more towards the coast with cloud and moisture humidity and the days and nights remain hot and steamy. This type of weather (humid) has moved south in the last ten years and we get it here frequently where as it didnt exist at all pre 20 years ago all the weather came off the southern ocean back then.

Now in the southern regions we have a change in weather system speed and direction as whole systems seem to drift down from the north occasionally and trap our usual fast shifting west moving oceans ones for long periods over the top of us which brings down northern weather style into our systems.

They call this ElNino and its from the warm currents of ocean flowing down the east coast effecting weather systems above and more so in meeting spots specially on the corners of continents in our case the south eastern corner just above Tasmania.

The east coast of Tassy that lines up with the east coast of Australia was in drought for some 10 years the last time this Elnino occurred. Where as the Tasmanian west coast that faces Africa as the next land west of it, was not in drought at all and had normal rainfall. It is only about 200 kilometers from one side of Tassy to the other!

That shows how local the effects can differ.

I dont think these stupid charts and number shifters who call on them or at worse manipulate them; take any of these local trends into consideration, its a numbers only game and aimed politically for one side or the others advancement; therefore a false projection concerning reality.

More so when the temperatures are taken and argued from the point of one inland town.

Interesting take. I'm just learning of this term to applied.
I thought the effects of what is deemed as global warming involved warmer oceans that will cause the earth overall to behave like a woman with a drastic mood swing. One day she's cool, the next two she's hotter than heck.

[El Kabong]

Latest Surge of Arctic Air to Freeze Northeast, Midwest and South

GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!

[walrus]

I'm in the northeast and I can attest for this frickin arctic air.

[El Kabong]

http://www.scibull.com:8080/EN/abstr...ct509579.shtml

A peer reviewed paper, one not funded by anyone but the authors, has the alarmists scrambling to try and dig up dirty on those authors......but why?

[El Kabong]

I can see Global Warming from my house!!!
Al Gore Buys $8.9 Million Ocean-view Villa - WORLD PROPERTY JOURNAL Global News Center





That was in 2010......and apparently he's still waiting on that sea level rise to make his walk to the beach even shorter

[El Kabong]

Flashback 1985: Gov’t Scientists Once Predicted NYC Would Resemble Daytona Beach | The Daily Caller

And That’s the Way It Was: In 1972, Cronkite Warned of ‘New Ice Age’


.....yeah ok so we were wrong then, but hear us out, we TOTALLY have it right this time, and this time it's for reals

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/0...28Daily+Kos%29

[brocktonblockbust]

well I don't know how I feel about global warming. Perhaps there are certain patches global warming happening at certain places or certain longitudes across the globe however in the aggregate it could very well be that there are some global freezing patterns happening oh so beautifully to balance out the entire effect. This is much more likely to be as I believe that planet Earth knows what she is doing and I don't think that 7 billion pieces of s*** are more powerful than mother earth

[El Kabong]

More frequent and more intense hurricanes

[El Kabong]

President Obama on legalizing & decriminalizing marijuana “Let’s put it in perspective. Young people, I understand this is important to you but you should be thinking about climate change, the economy, jobs, war and peace.”

Climate Change: Isn't planting plants good for the environment?

Economy/Jobs/taxes: A new legal/decriminalized product to sell?

War & Peace: legalizing/decriminalizing marijuana would end a lot of troubles in Mexico, issues in border towns, remove nonviolent criminals from jails and make them easier to employ.



But yeah there are "bigger issues" he's actually got something he could cross the isle with, but he doesn't want to do it. Also he's been very busy undermining the states who have legalized/decriminalized it. Fucking climate change....when will people understand it's NOT anthropogenic?

[El Kabong]

The Coming Ice Age | Harper's Magazine

NEVER. QUESTION. SCIENCE!

[TitoFan]

Latest Surge of Arctic Air to Freeze Northeast, Midwest and South

GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!

I don't know about no damned global warming..... but I thought I'd warm this thread up a little....
It's starting to get downright chilly.




This Winter Was Warmest on Record


Ohhh....... those damned scientists!!
Global warming.... Ice Age..... global warming..... Ice Age...... global warming..... Ice Age.....



I think I'll go have a nice, frosty beer, while soaking up the midday tropical sun at the beach.

[walrus]

All Gore also said a while ago that by 2015 there would be no more snow. We got over eight feet in a little over a month in my area, actually, I kind of wish Gore had been right about that one.

[El Kabong]

The New York Times Should Seriously Consider Not Writing About Science Anymore | RealClearScience


Wouldn't be surprised if most news organizations operated in such a manner....while this doesn't have to do specifically with Anthropogenic Global Warming it does show precedent for fudging stats and pumping up false alarms in "scientific" articles