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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Although a few months old (March 2015), there is an interesting article on that edition of National Geographic magazine on science, called "The War on Science". It made for very interesting reading, and of course I thought a lot about this particular thread while reading the article. (Yes... I read the entire article and found it very interesting). The basic thread of the article is about today's skepticism about scientific theories and studies. Of course, this skepticism has always existed in some form or another throughout time... but as the article states... with the advent of the Internet, Google, and the smorgasbord of information now available to everyone... it seems more prevalent now.

    I found the article to be well-written, without a huge slant one way or another. It's basically designed to make one think about things in a more objective, less critical manner.

    Unless of course, it's just a massive conspiracy and undertaking by the scientific community to attack the skeptics.
    The internet is the big equalizer.

    It is as if the business and political world have pocketed their own scientists.
    So a discussion on science, to climate change is immediately questioned from the perspective of the source without considering the information given.
    Darn the logic, if it didn't come from a source one respects.

    I am confident there are scientists, meteorologists, to climatologists that work for the love of their craft and not for the politicization of their craft.
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    Just a few left....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Although a few months old (March 2015), there is an interesting article on that edition of National Geographic magazine on science, called "The War on Science". It made for very interesting reading, and of course I thought a lot about this particular thread while reading the article. (Yes... I read the entire article and found it very interesting). The basic thread of the article is about today's skepticism about scientific theories and studies. Of course, this skepticism has always existed in some form or another throughout time... but as the article states... with the advent of the Internet, Google, and the smorgasbord of information now available to everyone... it seems more prevalent now.

    I found the article to be well-written, without a huge slant one way or another. It's basically designed to make one think about things in a more objective, less critical manner.

    Unless of course, it's just a massive conspiracy and undertaking by the scientific community to attack the skeptics.
    The internet is the big equalizer.

    It is as if the business and political world have pocketed their own scientists.
    So a discussion on science, to climate change is immediately questioned from the perspective of the source without considering the information given.
    Darn the logic, if it didn't come from a source one respects.

    I am confident there are scientists, meteorologists, to climatologists that work for the love of their craft and not for the politicization of their craft.


    I know Slim... but doesn't that create the famous "ostrich syndrome" in your opinion? All this easy access to information is great... but a bad side effect is that now we're all "experts" on everything and skeptical like never before. The good information gets lost with the bad. Take medical science, for instance. All of a sudden everyone's an expert on their own bodies and heath... to the point where doctors are routinely second-guessed. I'm not saying a little knowledge is bad... but to what degree? The same goes for climatology.

    The aforementioned "National Geographic" article includes the following passage:

    "Science appeals to our rational brain, but our beliefs are motivated largely by emotion, and the biggest motivation is remaining tight with our peers. "We're all in high school. We've never left high school," says Marcia McNutt. "People still have a need to fit in, and that need to fit in is so strong that local values and local opinions are always trumping science. And they will continue to trump science, especially when there is no clear downside to ignoring science.""


    You combine the glut on information with this "need to fit in", local demographics, political beliefs, and special interest groups... not to mention the existence of some either incompetent and/or corrupt scientists (like there are in any profession).... and it's no wonder we've become a society of skeptics.

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    Well said.
    So the great equalizer is also the great compromiser.


    For every website about anything, there is another rebuking it.

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    Damn, what do we do?
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    BTW, I PREFER that first website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    Well said.
    So the great equalizer is also the great compromiser.


    For every website about anything, there is another rebuking it.

    Tito Trinidad was a great boxer.com
    Tito the hands wrapped artist.com

    Damn, what do we do?


    Easy.


    You ignore the ignorant, bitter, misguided, false website...... and go with the one that speaks the truth.

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    How did we get to this point?


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    I admit it is too hard to take that video seriously. Again when African-Americans are defended by Conservatives: they are defending Blacks right to be conservative & that's it.

    And Mr. Coyne the "balogney" Maloney is yet another Reaganite. Only I laugh at his desire to be the right's anecdote to Michael Moor. Be better than that. Colleges are fucking up big time nationwide- especially their tuition. Maybe he states it- & I didn't watch it, but from what I've seen his point is about the "liberal" establishment denying free speech to Right Wing thinkers, not exposing the "many" fucked up things with colleges today. He mentions just (one). I agree with it, but it should come from someone who has no ties to either party/ideology.
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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