Would Wlad stick around for Wilder if the latter mows down another 2-3 top contenders

[TitoFan]

There's the objective posters, who are willing to discuss some of Wlad's shortcomings, regardless of how successful he's been and how many beds of money he has or how many Hollywood actresses are hanging off his arms.... and then there's Lyle.

Lyle, why do you get so defensive about Wlad? Especially considering that everything is prefaced with: "Yes, he's has a great career, has defended his title numerous times, is articulate and intelligent, is a nice guy, walks on water never mind..... strike that one.

Drop the sarcasm and learn to discuss things civilly, man.

How about you just take some time and understand that Wladimir fought and fought well for a period of time utilizing the tactics you (and the rest of those who dislike him) want him to use. Wlad fought in a crouch, threw numerous punches, and didn't give a shit at all for defense. That's how Wlad fought from the start of his career up to his hiring of Manny Steward.

There were weaknesses in Wlad's game, not so much to where he couldn't be a contender or hold a title, but enough to make it harder for him to have continued success. Wlad now fights in a manner which A) Minimizes damage he takes and B ) Maximizes damage he inflicts.....is "just winning" not enough? He fights in a style that takes his opponent out of the fight early on and frustrates them...instead of complaining about that perhaps as BOXING FANS you should appreciate it.

Not everyone can fight like Tyson, or Frazier, or Foreman and they shouldn't be expected to.

I don't want Wlad to fight in a crouch, Lyle.
I also don't want him not to give a shit about defense.



Geeez.... this shouldn't be so difficult.




Funny you should mention Foreman. Here's another guy who mostly towered over his opponents, with huge power in both hands, with mostly a straight-up stance, using his height and reach to his advantage. Another guy whose opponents for the most part went into the ring intimidated, looking to survive. Yet he never suffered from the same tag as Wlad, did he. Foreman during his early career did not get tagged that much (though he more than made up for that when he came back). Whatever he did was effective. Nowadays, he is not punch drunk, but an affable, engaging grandfather.

Not a good example to defend Wlad.

[Beanflicker]

Big George was more of a slow mummy for the most part though... Wlad is actually quick!

[El Kabong]

I don't want Wlad to fight in a crouch, Lyle.
I also don't want him not to give a shit about defense.



Geeez.... this shouldn't be so difficult.




Funny you should mention Foreman. Here's another guy who mostly towered over his opponents, with huge power in both hands, with mostly a straight-up stance, using his height and reach to his advantage. Another guy whose opponents for the most part went into the ring intimidated, looking to survive. Yet he never suffered from the same tag as Wlad, did he. Foreman during his early career did not get tagged that much (though he more than made up for that when he came back). Whatever he did was effective. Nowadays, he is not punch drunk, but an affable, engaging grandfather.

Not a good example to defend Wlad.

Allllright, well Wlad USED to throw numerous punches as well....and as he learned with Purrity and with Brewster there WILL be guys who can take those punches albeit few and far between. Wlad also learned vs Corrie Sanders that being overly aggressive can leave you open to counter punches...guys with that kind of power and accuracy again few and far between. But now Wlad has corrected most notably THOSE mistakes and you're upset at him for basically not allowing his opponents the chance to beat him.

George Foreman got tagged a lot when he was older, he has a hell of a chin on him. But again you look at Old Foreman (boring calculating fighter looking for a big punch) and Young Foreman (exciting slugger) and what do you immediately think? I think he would have had a better career had he started boxing the way he did in his comeback rather than being just an outright slugger....would have probably beaten Ali fighting at a slower pace and not getting mindfucked....but riddle me this, if 45 year old George Foreman fought like the 25 year old Foreman how would that have gone

Although he had a good jab he was very statuesque with his stance and boxing very slow and methodically. Open for that left hook.

Indeed....a mere child could have beaten him