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    Default Re: Mayweather v Pacquiao: boxing's richest cakewalk

    Pac isn't in his electric pomp but has he really slipped that far that he's got no chance against Floyd?

    Since the KO loss he's thrashed Brandon Rios 12-0 - a guy that's never been stopped/is hard as nails. Beat Bradley, an elite level fighter, with ease and blasted Algieri to the deck a thousand times on his way to another whitewash.

    It's hardly bad form.

    Floyd has just had two physically demanding fights. He finished the 2nd one looking and sounding knackered. Arguably Pac will be the best fighter Floyd has ever faced.
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    Default Re: Mayweather v Pacquiao: boxing's richest cakewalk

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Pac isn't in his electric pomp but has he really slipped that far that he's got no chance against Floyd?

    Since the KO loss he's thrashed Brandon Rios 12-0 - a guy that's never been stopped/is hard as nails. Beat Bradley, an elite level fighter, with ease and blasted Algieri to the deck a thousand times on his way to another whitewash.

    It's hardly bad form.

    Floyd has just had two physically demanding fights. He finished the 2nd one looking and sounding knackered. Arguably Pac will be the best fighter Floyd has ever faced.
    It's also hardly good form let's be honest rios and Algieri are pretty low level fighters, pacman is an elite fighter he should of handled them the way he did.

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    Default Re: Mayweather v Pacquiao: boxing's richest cakewalk

    It might be. Personally, I never saw Pacquiao beating Mayweather, especially now that he has seemingly lost his punching power (which is very suspicious).

    Pac's a tough match up for anyone because of his technique, speed and power, but we saw him outboxed by Morales, we saw him outboxed by JMM, so I never saw how Mayweather would be any different.
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    Default Re: Mayweather v Pacquiao: boxing's richest cakewalk

    Quote Originally Posted by g3org3 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Pac isn't in his electric pomp but has he really slipped that far that he's got no chance against Floyd?

    Since the KO loss he's thrashed Brandon Rios 12-0 - a guy that's never been stopped/is hard as nails. Beat Bradley, an elite level fighter, with ease and blasted Algieri to the deck a thousand times on his way to another whitewash.

    It's hardly bad form.

    Floyd has just had two physically demanding fights. He finished the 2nd one looking and sounding knackered. Arguably Pac will be the best fighter Floyd has ever faced.
    It's also hardly good form let's be honest rios and Algieri are pretty low level fighters, pacman is an elite fighter he should of handled them the way he did.
    Well I think it proves good form. He easily beat two fighters that he was expected to beat. 12-0. 12-0. If he struggled in anyway then you could say it wasn't very impressive. Seems like Pac gets downgraded when he doesn't score the KO, which is a bit odd when comparing him with Floyd.

    (personally I wouldn't regard them as "low level" fighters, only "elite" fighters will wipe the floor with that level of opposition)
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    Default Re: Mayweather v Pacquiao: boxing's richest cakewalk

    Floyd will fight his best fight and be flawless against Pac Man like he did with Saul Alvarez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Floyd will fight his best fight and be flawless against Pac Man like he did with Saul Alvarez.
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    Default Re: Mayweather v Pacquiao: boxing's richest cakewalk

    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Floyd will fight his best fight and be flawless against Pac Man like he did with Saul Alvarez.
    Spot on master class.
    Floyd will do and fight exactly like JMM did.
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    Default Re: Mayweather v Pacquiao: boxing's richest cakewalk

    Manny has been faking slippage, it's the only way he could lure Floyd into a fight. Manny by KO

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    Default Re: Mayweather v Pacquiao: boxing's richest cakewalk

    Floyd is going to be tough to beat and should be the (significant) favorite to beat Manny. Floyd is the bigger man, always in great condition, a great counterpuncher, more versatile and more skilled in the ring. That being said, Pac has a MUCH better chance than say... Buster Douglas did vs Tyson.

    One punch can change history, and from what I see Manny can still punch hard. Rios and Algieri were in survival mode from the start, so I think it is misleading to say Manny has lost his power. While I don't think he one punch knocks out Floyd, I can see Manny landing a HARD shot and causing facial damage that either leads to a stoppage, or forces Floyd to fight in a different manner.

    Manny's biggest chance, in my opinion, is his rhythm/speed/unorthodox style combination. He can simply be awkward enough to throw more punches than Floyd from weird angles while constantly moving, and win an ugly/close decision without hurting Floyd seriously. Again, I'm betting on Floyd, but I think Manny has a solid chance to score the upset.

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    Default Re: Mayweather v Pacquiao: boxing's richest cakewalk

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Seems like Pac gets downgraded when he doesn't score the KO, which is a bit odd when comparing him with Floyd.

    (personally I wouldn't regard them as "low level" fighters, only "elite" fighters will wipe the floor with that level of opposition)
    He gets downgraded because KOing guys is what he did well. Pac was billed as an ultra aggressive, 2 handed knockout machine. When a guy is no longer able to do what brought him to greatness, people are naturally going to assume he's slipping.

    What else are people left to think when the supposed most dangerous man in boxing hasn't stopped a guy in 6 years? When a guy who iced the likes of Miguel Cotto, Hatton, De La Hoya, Barrera, ect is going the distance with Rios and Algeiri?
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    Default Re: Mayweather v Pacquiao: boxing's richest cakewalk

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Seems like Pac gets downgraded when he doesn't score the KO, which is a bit odd when comparing him with Floyd.

    (personally I wouldn't regard them as "low level" fighters, only "elite" fighters will wipe the floor with that level of opposition)
    He gets downgraded because KOing guys is what he did well. Pac was billed as an ultra aggressive, 2 handed knockout machine. When a guy is no longer able to do what brought him to greatness, people are naturally going to assume he's slipping.

    What else are people left to think when the supposed most dangerous man in boxing hasn't stopped a guy in 6 years? When a guy who iced the likes of Miguel Cotto, Hatton, De La Hoya, Barrera, ect is going the distance with Rios and Algeiri?
    Well people should have a rethink then. The only guy he "iced" here was Hatton.

    He bashed Oscar into submission, Cotto was stopped on his feet in the 12th after being floored early, Clottey and Margarito both went the distance, Mosley went the distance after being decked, he never once stopped Marquez after decking him several times in four bouts, Rios has never been stopped, Bradley has never been stopped, Algieri has never been stopped. Barrera was stopped on his feet in the first fight then took him the distance in the rematch.

    Pacquiao is a vicious puncher.

    Is he past his best? Naturally. Is he a complete and utter shadow of his former self? The evidence doesn't point to that. Is he still regarded as one of the P4P best? Yes. Will he be the best fighter Floyd has ever faced? Probably. Fact.
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    Default Re: Mayweather v Pacquiao: boxing's richest cakewalk

    I don't think he's a shadow of his former self by any stretch, he's obviously still a magnificent fighter. It's just hard to get by the fact that he hasn't stopped a guy in 6 years, and really hasn't shown that same kind of killer instinct since being knocked unconscious by JMM.

    I don't think he's a cakewalk for Mayweather (although I wouldn't be surprised if Mayweather dominated), but it's tough to give him a realistic chance. He doesn't have the skills or the boxing IQ to outfox Mayweather and if he can't knock out Algieri or Rios, it's hard to imagine he can KO Mayweather.
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    Default Re: Mayweather v Pacquiao: boxing's richest cakewalk

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I don't think he's a shadow of his former self by any stretch, he's obviously still a magnificent fighter. It's just hard to get by the fact that he hasn't stopped a guy in 6 years, and really hasn't shown that same kind of killer instinct since being knocked unconscious by JMM.

    I don't think he's a cakewalk for Mayweather (although I wouldn't be surprised if Mayweather dominated), but it's tough to give him a realistic chance. He doesn't have the skills or the boxing IQ to outfox Mayweather and if he can't knock out Algieri or Rios, it's hard to imagine he can KO Mayweather.
    I don't think Manny's only chance is by KO. I can see his fan/judge friendly raids winning rounds. Many a lesser fighter than him have taken rounds off Floyd
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    Default Re: Mayweather v Pacquiao: boxing's richest cakewalk

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Pac isn't in his electric pomp but has he really slipped that far that he's got no chance against Floyd?

    Since the KO loss he's thrashed Brandon Rios 12-0 - a guy that's never been stopped/is hard as nails. Beat Bradley, an elite level fighter, with ease and blasted Algieri to the deck a thousand times on his way to another whitewash.

    It's hardly bad form.

    Floyd has just had two physically demanding fights. He finished the 2nd one looking and sounding knackered. Arguably Pac will be the best fighter Floyd has ever faced.

    Damn straight. Now that this thing is apparently signed and a 3 fight deal this default notion that somehow Manny has slid to far while ignoring how Floyd has looked against a one dimensional sloth is hilarious and steeped in denial.

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