Mayweather - Pacquiao is on !!!!

[imp]

I must admit I am quite excited about it all now. All that half decade preamble nonsense was really annoying, but finally we can debate and build up the fight properly without constantly having to say 'but there is still no fight'. There is a fight, it is on, and it better be bloody good. These two owe the boxing world a spectacle after all the girly antics. I am now a Pactard.

You should know better than that gandalf...I await your excuses on May the 2nd.

I think a lot of fans look at floyd and judge/hate him on his antics outside the ring rather than just compare both their skills in the ring and choose the better fighter.

Manchester United are a great football team but they aren't on that Barcelona level.

Time will tell. I am judging Floyd on his last few fights and he doesn't seem to have it. Manny isn't quite the same either, but his speed and output are still there and Floyd is going to have a tough time negating that all night long. If Maidana can take 5 and Cotto can take 5, then why not Manny who is much better than them? Pac is probably going to land over 200 punches on Floyd and I can't see Mayweather eating them all and staying upright. Plus Manny is so much quicker than anyone Floyd has been in with for years. Floyd can handle southpaws, Floyd can handle power, Floyd can handle speed, Floyd can handle output, but I don't think he can do it against a fighter who has all four of those things. The Maidana fights revealed a lot about Floyd, he is still smart and he can adapt, but he is old and slowing.

He is old and slowing but floyd has quick hands and is the fastest opponent that manny has ever faced as well...

Manny will provide a great test but unfortunately marquez has shown us how to nullify that speed and has set the blueprint on mannys flaws..

[#1FightFan]

MANNY HAS TO KO HIM TO WIN....

here is MY take on this long overdue fight. I am a mayweather hater, i admit it. BUT...seeing as how he finally accepted the fight, props to him!!! he does have the balls i guess.

Prediction: well, if mayweather don't weasel out of the fight somehow, he will 1). buy the judges AGAIN and get a gift decision in a long fight of floyd running and potshotting, and of course it will be considered good boxing by the corrupt judges and he will get the nod. for running!!!
manny will be the more aggressive one and land the better/harder punches.

or 2). hopefully!! MANNY HAS TO KO FLOYD TO WIN~!!!! especially in vegas.

if it goes the distance - we will see a mayweather/maidana 1 all over, but manny will punish floyd much more than maidana did. it wont matter tho, because the decision will already be made before the first bell rings. after all, its vegas and its floyd TBE mayweather!!

[imp]

Do your homework.

Manny and Freddie have already admitted they opted out of the first fight due to the blood day deadline ..doh!

And we know what happened with the offer of 40 million..smh

[Master]

Can we live in hope and just have one thread on this fight?

[Gandalf]

I must admit I am quite excited about it all now. All that half decade preamble nonsense was really annoying, but finally we can debate and build up the fight properly without constantly having to say 'but there is still no fight'. There is a fight, it is on, and it better be bloody good. These two owe the boxing world a spectacle after all the girly antics. I am now a Pactard.

You should know better than that gandalf...I await your excuses on May the 2nd.

I think a lot of fans look at floyd and judge/hate him on his antics outside the ring rather than just compare both their skills in the ring and choose the better fighter.

Manchester United are a great football team but they aren't on that Barcelona level.

Time will tell. I am judging Floyd on his last few fights and he doesn't seem to have it. Manny isn't quite the same either, but his speed and output are still there and Floyd is going to have a tough time negating that all night long. If Maidana can take 5 and Cotto can take 5, then why not Manny who is much better than them? Pac is probably going to land over 200 punches on Floyd and I can't see Mayweather eating them all and staying upright. Plus Manny is so much quicker than anyone Floyd has been in with for years. Floyd can handle southpaws, Floyd can handle power, Floyd can handle speed, Floyd can handle output, but I don't think he can do it against a fighter who has all four of those things. The Maidana fights revealed a lot about Floyd, he is still smart and he can adapt, but he is old and slowing.

He is old and slowing but floyd has quick hands and is the fastest opponent that manny has ever faced as well...

Manny will provide a great test but unfortunately marquez has shown us how to nullify that speed and has set the blueprint on mannys flaws..

True, Floyd is still fast and is the smartest fighter in the game. Marquez worked out Manny, but Manny worked out many of Mayweather's opponents and not only worked them out, but destroyed them. Styles make fights and that is why we are all going to be talking about it a lot, lot more!

[powerpuncher]

One thing that people fail to see when they try to show Floyd's weaknesses by referring to the cotto and maidana fights is that both of them are pressure fighters which don't rely on speed but making you uncomfortable, and also that both are quite a bit bigger than Pac. Pac will not be able to push Floyd to the ropes like them nor does he even fight in that style.

I would say that the best argument you could make would be referencing to the zab fight because their styles are a bit more similar (although definitely have differences). But Pac fights more of the jump in and out style like zab tried to do with Floyd. The difference though was that Pac has slowed a lot and is no where near as quick as zab was.

It's possible that Pac can catch Floyd but it has been possible for all of his opponents to do it too. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Pac may be the best fighter Floyd has ever faced, but it definitely won't be his toughest fight. I can't see Pac winning more than 3 rounds.

[Mark TKO]

There'll be a rematch defo September 12th - the fix is on

Close decision for Floyd then milk us all again


Would be hilarious if Manny lamped him with first punch of fight.

[denilson200]

Floyd wins. I just dont see Floyd allowing himself to lose to Pac-Man. I don't see another Floyd - Canelo washout but I do see Floyd winning, maybe even by stoppage.

Floyd has fought the best and beat the best. The build up to it is going to be of Jurassic proportions. I'm looking forward to the HBO 24-7, almost as much as the fight (lol).

[Andre]

One thing that people fail to see when they try to show Floyd's weaknesses by referring to the cotto and maidana fights is that both of them are pressure fighters which don't rely on speed but making you uncomfortable, and also that both are quite a bit bigger than Pac. Pac will not be able to push Floyd to the ropes like them nor does he even fight in that style.

I would say that the best argument you could make would be referencing to the zab fight because their styles are a bit more similar (although definitely have differences). But Pac fights more of the jump in and out style like zab tried to do with Floyd. The difference though was that Pac has slowed a lot and is no where near as quick as zab was.

It's possible that Pac can catch Floyd but it has been possible for all of his opponents to do it too. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Pac may be the best fighter Floyd has ever faced, but it definitely won't be his toughest fight. I can't see Pac winning more than 3 rounds.

Floyds got reach on him too,he will be designing some controls around that as well earlier on.
Manny is erratic all out with some holes in defense.
I think more towards Marquez as the best Manny has fought.
Floyd made Marquez look wanting but shouldn't really compare styles I suppose.
This could easily be just the greatest show on Earth and the greatest public cash milking exercise next to carbon taxes.

[imp]

I must admit I am quite excited about it all now. All that half decade preamble nonsense was really annoying, but finally we can debate and build up the fight properly without constantly having to say 'but there is still no fight'. There is a fight, it is on, and it better be bloody good. These two owe the boxing world a spectacle after all the girly antics. I am now a Pactard.

You should know better than that gandalf...I await your excuses on May the 2nd.

I think a lot of fans look at floyd and judge/hate him on his antics outside the ring rather than just compare both their skills in the ring and choose the better fighter.

Manchester United are a great football team but they aren't on that Barcelona level.

Time will tell. I am judging Floyd on his last few fights and he doesn't seem to have it. Manny isn't quite the same either, but his speed and output are still there and Floyd is going to have a tough time negating that all night long. If Maidana can take 5 and Cotto can take 5, then why not Manny who is much better than them? Pac is probably going to land over 200 punches on Floyd and I can't see Mayweather eating them all and staying upright. Plus Manny is so much quicker than anyone Floyd has been in with for years. Floyd can handle southpaws, Floyd can handle power, Floyd can handle speed, Floyd can handle output, but I don't think he can do it against a fighter who has all four of those things. The Maidana fights revealed a lot about Floyd, he is still smart and he can adapt, but he is old and slowing.

He is old and slowing but floyd has quick hands and is the fastest opponent that manny has ever faced as well...

Manny will provide a great test but unfortunately marquez has shown us how to nullify that speed and has set the blueprint on mannys flaws..

True, Floyd is still fast and is the smartest fighter in the game. Marquez worked out Manny, but Manny worked out many of Mayweather's opponents and not only worked them out, but destroyed them. Styles make fights and that is why we are all going to be talking about it a lot, lot more!

But manny fought these common opponents AFTER floyd beat them.

Massive difference.

ZAB Judah is much faster than pac and would outbox pac very easily...

















In 6 rounds.

[Ron Swanson]

Yes, Arum and his thoughts on the undergrad are incredibly stupid, what does he think, fans that will drop the bucks on a ppv don't care about the whole presentation. Still, it's not just Arum running this show so I think they put together a good line up. This isn't just a fight, it's an event and should be treated as such.
I wonder what they will call this, Floyd likes catchy names, they should have saved " The One" for this instead of the waste of Floyd v Alvarez.

Do you want to expand on what you were saying about Mannys camp and his fans

Man I wrote a book listing 100s of blatant lies but I figure it would be greeted with TLDR so a shorter version...

Floyd did not add testing to get out of the fight. It was in the original contract that was agreed to. Team Pac used it to get out of the fight.

Pac isn't afraid of needles. What's funny is that wasn't even their first excuse. Arum threw excuse after excuse at the wall until he found one that stuck. Every day a new excuse. If I couldn't afford a house and I said "I don't have a house because I'm a nomad" then the next day I said "i don't have a house because I grew up in an orphanage and houses make me feel trapped" and I said a new thing every day for a week then finally I said "I don't have a house because I fear ceilings, sure I've been under many ceilings but not so regularly" are you going to believe me? No, because it's preposterous. Yet people regurgitate Manny fears needles as if there is any truth to it and as if it didn't come about in such a ridiculous way.

And Manny absolutely did not believe he signed a contract when he agreed to a deal memo. People need to stop excusing this nonsense. It's a blatant f'n lie. I don't get why people excuse someone blatantly f'n lying instead of calling them on it. Manny has signed many contracts, he knows what a contract looks like. A deal memo looks *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE A CONTRACT*. He lied, people should call him on it but instead they allow it.

As long as people don't call liars on their lies then Bobhas no problem lying, Manny has no problem lying, Roach has no problem lying. If you need evidence watch "Roach is a lying racist" on YouTube

[pacfan]

First off, I'm really glad the fight is happening at the long last. This should stop most of the sh-t talks that's been going on here for just too long...

Taking all bets there's an injury delay to this fight!

Is your suggestion that Manny will pull out again but with an injury this time and Floyd will be blamed by Mannys fans? Because I can see "Floyd was so scared he paid Mannys sparring partner to injure Mannys ribs, clearly with Floyd pulling such trickery it was best not to postpone but rather cancel because Manny is afraid of postponement. And a fear of postponement is completely logical so we will be fine saying it over and over"

I don't know about all that but every iota pre and post fight will be discussed here I an insane manner. We've been talking about this fight for years. It will be interesting. There is a lot of dislike for Floyd but those of us who dislike his arrogance and women beating still appreciate him as an incredible boxer. What I am most interested to see is what Manny can do about that jab. I think Floyd has one of the best jabs of all time and no one has an answer for it. It sets up everything. I think the consensus is Floyd, even being a Manny fan I probably agree but certainly don't write Manny off. I'm interested to hear from @pacfan to see what the mood in the Philippines is. They must be rockin. It'll be interested to see what the bookmakers in Vegas come up with. I'll probably throw a few bucks at Manny.

I do have to say Mannys story is amazing, from a poor kid hustling in the streets of the Philippines to this, the biggest financial fight ever. It's late, neither of these guys are what they were buts it's going to be a he'll of an event. The undercards have to be great as well. Damn it's finally happening, I need to get permission from my wife to get the ppv, God my life sucks. Do you think Brock and GGG will be on the undergrad.

Well, buds, you've guessed it right. The announcement was a headline item in all the news programs here and many media outfits interrupted their usual programs to make the announcement. The story was just a bit ecclipsed though by the recent massacre of 44 police special force members here, who were ambushed after taking out a Malaysian terrorist who masterminded the Bali bombing. Manny told that he will dedicate the fight to these fallen police officers. So I say, go Manny!!!

[pacfan]

Can we live in hope and just have one thread on this fight?

Hmmm, that's a great philosophical question, Master. I hope you will find the answer one day.

[SlimTrae]

Can we live in hope and just have one thread on this fight?

Hmmm, that's a great philosophical question, Master. I hope you will find the answer one day.

Almost didnt see this. About to state;
Any moderators here? Merge the other posts into this one- or delete the others... way to friggin many posts about the same topic.

[powerpuncher]

One thing that people fail to see when they try to show Floyd's weaknesses by referring to the cotto and maidana fights is that both of them are pressure fighters which don't rely on speed but making you uncomfortable, and also that both are quite a bit bigger than Pac. Pac will not be able to push Floyd to the ropes like them nor does he even fight in that style.

I would say that the best argument you could make would be referencing to the zab fight because their styles are a bit more similar (although definitely have differences). But Pac fights more of the jump in and out style like zab tried to do with Floyd. The difference though was that Pac has slowed a lot and is no where near as quick as zab was.

It's possible that Pac can catch Floyd but it has been possible for all of his opponents to do it too. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Pac may be the best fighter Floyd has ever faced, but it definitely won't be his toughest fight. I can't see Pac winning more than 3 rounds.

Floyds got reach on him too,he will be designing some controls around that as well earlier on.
Manny is erratic all out with some holes in defense.
I think more towards Marquez as the best Manny has fought.
Floyd made Marquez look wanting but shouldn't really compare styles I suppose.
This could easily be just the greatest show on Earth and the greatest public cash milking exercise next to carbon taxes.

Good points. Floyd's counter punching is by far the biggest factor in this fight.