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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    USA are very right wing but it comes from their history that freedom of the individual is the ultimate expression of democracy and any state intervention is bad. Whereas we see the state as a support mechanism for the most needy and vulnerable.
    We're not a democracy, democracies are just mob rule, we're a Constitutional (that's why that piece of paper is still important as ever) REPUBLIC. The Constitution and God protect those not in power as those citizens not in power are endowed with inalienable rights from their creator ie things the government can't give out and therefore can't take away.

    Apart from black people who only count as 3/5ths of a white person according to the US constitution.

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    Green leader Bennett sorry for 'excruciating' interview

    Green Party leader Natalie Bennett has apologised to party members for what she said was a "very bad" radio interview about its housing policy.

    Ms Bennett said she had suffered a "mind blank" during the "excruciating" exchange, where she tried to explain how the party would fund a pledge of 500,000 new social rental homes.

    She was speaking as the Greens launched their election campaign.

    Other policies include a "citizen's income" of £72

    a week for all adults.

    During an interview on LBC, Ms Bennett seemed to struggle to explain the funding model for the new homes, saying she had a "huge cold".

    Later, speaking on the BBC's Daily Politics, she said a fully costed manifesto would be published in March.

    "I had a very bad interview on housing this morning," she said.

    "I am very happy to confess that and I am very sorry to the Green Party members who I did not do a very good job representing our policies on.

    "That happens, I am human."

    The policy would cost £27bn, she said (although she had earlier mistakenly said £2.7bn in the LBC interview) which would be partly funded by removing tax relief on mortgage interest for private landlords.

    BBC News - Election 2015: Green leader Bennett sorry for 'excruciating' interview
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    Green leader Bennett sorry for 'excruciating' interview

    Green Party leader Natalie Bennett has apologised to party members for what she said was a "very bad" radio interview about its housing policy.

    Ms Bennett said she had suffered a "mind blank" during the "excruciating" exchange, where she tried to explain how the party would fund a pledge of 500,000 new social rental homes.

    She was speaking as the Greens launched their election campaign.

    Other policies include a "citizen's income" of £72

    a week for all adults.

    During an interview on LBC, Ms Bennett seemed to struggle to explain the funding model for the new homes, saying she had a "huge cold".

    Later, speaking on the BBC's Daily Politics, she said a fully costed manifesto would be published in March.

    "I had a very bad interview on housing this morning," she said.

    "I am very happy to confess that and I am very sorry to the Green Party members who I did not do a very good job representing our policies on.

    "That happens, I am human."

    The policy would cost £27bn, she said (although she had earlier mistakenly said £2.7bn in the LBC interview) which would be partly funded by removing tax relief on mortgage interest for private landlords.

    BBC News - Election 2015: Green leader Bennett sorry for 'excruciating' interview
    I was listening to that on LBC and nick ferrari didn't have to do much to make her look silly.

    Embarressing.

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    That is a shame as I like Green but she did sound foolish. Wait until they have the televised debate.
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    There are many reasons the United States is more individualistic than the rest of the world be it for the fact that this nation was born out of a war against a tyrannical government or for the fact that colonists begat settlers who went off and did for themselves, by themselves, with little to no help from the government, or be it for another reason Americans are how we are and ever since we have arrived the rest of the world has attempted to tell us how to live, how to govern, how to rule....OUR nation, the nation built with the blood sweat and tears of our ancestors. America has attempted to export our values, I don't deny that for one second and some places find these ideas scary, some find it new, some find it silly but again these people these nations aren't from the same birth that America came from, they have different experiences, different cultures, different values.




    I for one don't want to deal with the government as a part of everyday life, I would assume most people feel like that if they have ever had any true dealings with bureaucracy...but some people apparently are gluttons for punishment, I am not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Apart from black people who only count as 3/5ths of a white person according to the US constitution.
    Which article and clause would I find that in if you would be so kind?


    Also you didn't answer my question: phyletic gradualism or punctuated equilibrium? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Apart from black people who only count as 3/5ths of a white person according to the US constitution.
    Which article and clause would I find that in if you would be so kind?


    Also you didn't answer my question: phyletic gradualism or punctuated equilibrium? Thanks
    Article I, Section 2 use to have a line that read, "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."

    It did't specifically say "black men", but said if you were not a free person, nor Indian, you were 3/5 of a person.

    It was later replaced by Section 2 of the 14th Amendment: "Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
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    Apart from black people who only count as 3/5ths of a white person according to the US constitution.
    Which article and clause would I find that in if you would be so kind?


    Also you didn't answer my question: phyletic gradualism or punctuated equilibrium? Thanks
    Article I, Section 2 use to have a line that read, "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."

    It did't specifically say "black men", but said if you were not a free person, nor Indian, you were 3/5 of a person.

    It was later replaced by Section 2 of the 14th Amendment: "Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed."
    Oh it didn't SPECIFICALLY say black people....so I reckon you're wrong. Shame that

    Also phyletic gradualism or punctuated equilibrium? Still waiting on your answer for that but take your time, study up

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Apart from black people who only count as 3/5ths of a white person according to the US constitution.
    Which article and clause would I find that in if you would be so kind?


    Also you didn't answer my question: phyletic gradualism or punctuated equilibrium? Thanks
    Article I, Section 2 use to have a line that read, "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."

    It did't specifically say "black men", but said if you were not a free person, nor Indian, you were 3/5 of a person.

    It was later replaced by Section 2 of the 14th Amendment: "Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed."
    Oh it didn't SPECIFICALLY say black people....so I reckon you're wrong. Shame that

    Also phyletic gradualism or punctuated equilibrium? Still waiting on your answer for that but take your time, study up
    I'm not wrong at all. Read a little about your history and find out why your constitution had to make black people 3/5ths of a white person. Also, too, slavery. Apart from the fact that it allowed slavery and for slaves not to be counted as human beings the US constitution was a triumph of equal rights and a shining example to the rest of humanity.

    Three-Fifths Compromise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And just because you learnt a new couple of big words doesn't mean you understand what you're talking about. So I'll just wait until you finally fully accept that Al Gore was right and that inevitably you were wrong.

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    Ahem....you said and I quote "Apart from black people who only count as 3/5ths of a white person according to the US constitution" ...... that was NOT the case and NEVER the case ergo you are wrong!



    Meanwhile...in the realm of unanswered questions
    Phyletic gradualism or Punctuated equilibrium....the world waits

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Ahem....you said and I quote "Apart from black people who only count as 3/5ths of a white person according to the US constitution" ...... that was NOT the case and NEVER the case ergo you are wrong!



    Meanwhile...in the realm of unanswered questions
    Phyletic gradualism or Punctuated equilibrium....the world waits
    I see. So all those slaves had exactly the same rights as every other person in America. That's an interesting take on American history and not one shared by many historians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Ahem....you said and I quote "Apart from black people who only count as 3/5ths of a white person according to the US constitution" ...... that was NOT the case and NEVER the case ergo you are wrong!



    Meanwhile...in the realm of unanswered questions
    Phyletic gradualism or Punctuated equilibrium....the world waits
    Pathetic.

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    Conservatives offering 'a good life' for all

    David Cameron has said his aim is to guarantee a "good life" for British workers and families as he launched the Conservatives' election manifesto.

    The prime minister said he wanted "to finish the job" of rebuilding Britain on behalf of "working people".

    He pledged to pass a law to keep minimum wage workers out of tax, double free childcare to 30 hours a week and boost "right to buy" home ownership.

    Labour said the Conservatives were the "party of the richest in society".

    The Conservative launch in Swindon came the day after Ed Miliband put forward Labour's version - promising to improve the lives of Britain's workers and not to pay for any policies through additional borrowing.

    In his speech, Mr Cameron said the Conservatives would build on the "solid foundations" laid by his government since 2010, proclaiming that Britain was "on the brink of something special" and warning that Labour would take the UK "back to square one".

    "We are the party of the working people offering you security at every stage of your life," he said.
    His goal over the next five years, he said, was to "turn the good news on our economy into a good life for you and your family".

    "They're about realising the potential of Britain, not as a debt-addicted, welfare-burdened, steadily declining, once great nation, which is what we found. But a country where a good life is there for everyone willing to work for it."

    David Cameron: Conservatives offering 'a good life' for all - BBC News
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    the stench of manure from those last two posts is overwhelming.

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    All the main parties are running sanitised campaigns where they agree not to target each other over the thing that British people have as number one on their list of issues to be dealt with, immigration. They don't want to give Ukip the oxygen.

    So the entire campaign is reduced to ridiculous photo opportunities where the politicians pretend they're like normal people.



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