David Haye- wasted talent?

[ross]

Well Haye was clearly one of Wlad's best/famous wins so downplaying him doesn't do Wlad any favours.

If every fighter you best is "crap," how do you become "great?" You're just the least crap of a crap bunch.

Oh absolutely I understand and agree with that, and I've said that exact same thing about Floyd Mayweather Jr. and how he runs down his opponents. But I'm not saying David Haye is a crap fighter, I'm saying he had more talent than what he let boxing fans have. The fight vs Haye was a big one, certainly up there in terms of high profile wins for Wlad, but at that same time 4 years of "I'm taking the division by storm" 4 years of "I'm decapitating the brothers", 4 years of boasts and brags and to put out THAT effort vs Wlad come on, we all expected more, even as a Wlad fan I expected Haye to try to actually win pinkie toe be damned.

I'm not saying David Haye is a shit fighter the way I think Tyson Fury IS a shit fighter who is well managed. David Haye had all the tools to be maybe not the Greatest of his era, but certainly 2nd or 3rd after Vitali's retirement. I'm not sure how Haye would handle Wilder or Jennings or Joshua and maybe that's part of the problem, but I think he could hold his own with plenty of others. Maybe Haye didn't have that belief in himself, or maybe he didn't have the drive to prove that to his fans, I don't know. I just think he had a lot left to offer the sport and the fans of boxing and it's a shame he didn't.......and that's ME saying that and I have hated David Haye since forever! He was certainly talented, but I think just losing once and quitting like that it's very Prince Naseem of him.

Talk about setting your self up for a fall.

When Wlad loses his whole career is ruined

[El Kabong]

Talk about setting your self up for a fall.

When Wlad loses his whole career is ruined

If the fight gets made how about a little wager?

[ross]

Talk about setting your self up for a fall.

When Wlad loses his whole career is ruined

If the fight gets made how about a little wager?

What and how?

[El Kabong]

Talk about setting your self up for a fall.

When Wlad loses his whole career is ruined

If the fight gets made how about a little wager?

What and how?

Fuck if I care Wlad isn't losing to that fat gypo

[ross]

Talk about setting your self up for a fall.

When Wlad loses his whole career is ruined

If the fight gets made how about a little wager?

What and how?

Fuck if I care Wlad isn't losing to that fat gypo

Ill have a think then if you don't care

[El Kabong]

Talk about setting your self up for a fall.

When Wlad loses his whole career is ruined

If the fight gets made how about a little wager?

What and how?

Fuck if I care Wlad isn't losing to that fat gypo

Ill have a think then if you don't care

Have one. Also if Wlad doesn't stop Fury I won't hold you to your end, how's that?

[mrbig1]

Haye was never a wasted talent. He was a very good fighter who beat some big names. At least he's not broke and homeless. He still has all his marbles. He has done the right thing not to end up like Holyfield or Toney who still has to fight to pay bills. Big Haye fan and have been for years.