David Haye- wasted talent?

[Dia bando]

Former Champion at 2 weights, made a a good bit of money wasted talent maybe,! but still
he was WBA HW Champion so all in all he did not do to bad did he.

[Master]

Former Champion at 2 weights, made a a good bit of money wasted talent maybe,! but still
he was WBA HW Champion so all in all he did not do to bad did he.

True but then he sold his soul against Audley debacle and Wlad effort. Chisora fight was a side show.

[Ron Swanson]

I know this is a UK message board but come on people. No matter what the record book says Haye was not a heavyweight champion. There are multiple reasons Valuev wasn't the champion when Haye cherry picked him.

Haye did fine with his career. He did all he could and more. I say more because not only did he do all he could do but he tricked people into thinking he had greater ambitions. Tricked them repeatedly.

[Fenster]

UK message board? There's more USA posters here than Brits.

[Memphis]

I don't think so, he achieved pretty much all he could.


He could have won the IBF belt at cruiser but other than that not much else, his success at heavy was always going to be brief.


It shouldn't be a knock on him that he did all this inside 30 fights. Him being a prick for letting people down shouldn't come into it either.

[El Kabong]

Yes 100% Haye wasted time, talent, and money.


Haye lost to Odlanier Solis whom I suggested he fight to build up to a fight against Wladimir. By the way Solis just got beaten by Tony Thompson for the second time, this time he was stopped! The fight Haye fought vs Wladimir was dreadful. Wlad did what he wanted and David ran, flopped, and whined the entire fight and even AFTER the fight....my toe hurts

There were PLENTY of heavyweights Haye could have and should have fought. Before Audley Harrison was found out and after Lennox Lewis retired there was this whole renewed interest in the British Title....why not win that? Why not avenge the amateur defeat to Solis? Why not fight Tyson Fury...indeed Haye could beat Fury right now if he so wanted and the bank he'd make from that would be HUGE!


David Haye is a part timer, a showboater, and a flake.....I hope boxing is rid of him for good and he can take Steve Bunce's stupid ass with him!

[Fenster]

What's this about Haye's toe?

Is it on ITV? Is Eric in Barbados?

[Fenster]

Lyle, what are Wlad's top ten best victories?

[Beanflicker]

He had a good run, champion in two weight classes, but yeah it's a shame we didn't get to see more of him. He was a fantastic talent, quick agile HW with huge power in both hands, very exciting style and personality for the HW division but I guess his heart wasn't really in it anymore. Shame we didn't get to see him in more fights.

[Max Power]

I can somewhat agree here. He has been a wasted talent.

Not quite ready to write him off yet. When he comes back and we can visibly see his decline, then I'll be on board all the way.

[ross]

I cant believe theres still people who want him back!

The last three fights he was supposed to be back, he actually signed but didnt fight!

Then he announced early last year he was going to be fighting in september last year and guess what... He didn't fight.

Wise up, he's not doing anything more than he has.

[Max Power]

I cant believe theres still people who want him back!

The last three fights he was supposed to be back, he actually signed but didnt fight!

Then he announced early last year he was going to be fighting in september last year and guess what... He didn't fight.

Wise up, he's not doing anything more than he has.

Well it's kinda like this man...

I don't wanna be jerked around by the little bastard anymore either.

But if he DOES come back and fight, I'll be both interested, and, should he prove further to be still a top contender (which injury aside, I don't see how he wouldn't be), then I'd be happy about it.

Haye was the best Cruiser of the 00's generation and at some point toward the end of Vitali's career, imo the 2nd best HW boxer in the world. And he brought style and action with him.

A guy with such speed and slickness and a 95% KOratio can't help but captivate just a little.

[ross]

I cant believe theres still people who want him back!

The last three fights he was supposed to be back, he actually signed but didnt fight!

Then he announced early last year he was going to be fighting in september last year and guess what... He didn't fight.

Wise up, he's not doing anything more than he has.

Well it's kinda like this man...

I don't wanna be jerked around by the little bastard anymore either.

But if he DOES come back and fight, I'll be both interested, and, should he prove further to be still a top contender (which injury aside, I don't see how he wouldn't be), then I'd be happy about it.

Haye was the best Cruiser of the 00's generation and at some point toward the end of Vitali's career, imo the 2nd best HW boxer in the world. And he brought style and action with him.

A guy with such speed and slickness and a 95% KOratio can't help but captivate just a little.

How can Haye be the best cruiser of the 00's when he lost to Thompson? Thompson wanted a rematch and Haye didn't. He also never faced Cunningham ( the only man to stop Huck) the IBF champion.

He only beat Macaranelli and Mormeck and thats it. Adamek had a better resume at cruiser than Haye!

Haye had Braithwaite, Huck, Adamek and Jones also. He would have likely lost to all. Mormeck and Macaranelli are not known for their resiliance those others are. He wont face anyone strong who can fight back.

[El Kabong]

Haye's soul wasn't in the game, he was very skilled but his record shows he enjoys the hypeman/showman aspect more so than the actual fighting. Haye loved to do talk shows, interviews, pre-fight pressers, etc but in the ring I cannot say with certainty that he "loved his job"....in the gym I am sure he worked hard as hell, you don't get ripped like that without putting in the time, but I think in the end he wanted to be a movie star, a celebrity, something other than a boxer. David Haye is the epitome of the title "Prize Fighter". Now I think he was very skilled as a boxer, but of course I question his dedication after calling it quits when 1 heavyweight unification title fight didn't go his way, how could I not? I think Haye could have fought and probably SHOULD HAVE fought all the guys you mention ross, he also had plenty of heavyweights to look at for big money fights.

[Master]

Haye overacheived as a heavyweight and there was no disgrace in his loss against Wlad who has broken Tyson, Fraizier, Lewis, and Holmes number of title defences.