what was Wladimir's best performance?

[Max Power]

nobody beats ali in his prime but Frazier and Marciano. if joe did it then Rock would too.

LOL So Clay can beat all of Wladimir's massive or otherwise elite athletic modern opponents...

But we're willing to concede he loses to a handicap fat dwarf and a circus carnie..

You KNOW you don't buy into that Brock!

That crap is so far beyond reality you couldn't have a straight face writing that stuff.

[erics44]

nobody beats ali in his prime but Frazier and Marciano. if joe did it then Rock would too.

LOL So Clay can beat all of Wladimir's massive or otherwise elite athletic modern opponents...

But we're willing to concede he loses to a handicap fat dwarf and a circus carnie..

You KNOW you don't buy into that Brock!

That crap is so far beyond reality you couldn't have a straight face writing that stuff.

thing is, the only thing we can only really judge wlads boxing on is his carear before peter 2

since peter 2 its not really been boxing

from that evidence id say wlad would be a contender in any era but never champ

[brocktonblockbust]

nobody beats ali in his prime but Frazier and Marciano. if joe did it then Rock would too.

LOL So Clay can beat all of Wladimir's massive or otherwise elite athletic modern opponents...

But we're willing to concede he loses to a handicap fat dwarf and a circus carnie..

You KNOW you don't buy into that Brock!

That crap is so far beyond reality you couldn't have a straight face writing that stuff.

thing is, the only thing we can only really judge wlads boxing on is his carear before peter 2

since peter 2 its not really been boxing

from that evidence id say wlad would be a contender in any era but never champ

@maxpower what did Joe frazier have on March 8, 1971, that Rocky The Brockton Blockbuster Marciano did not have? ANSWER: NOTHING!!!

Marciano wasn't a one-armed fighter as Frazier was---- how many right hands did Frazier throw that night? 5? 6? 10 at most

Marciano had dynamite in BOTH fists. Marciano KO ali, Round 9

[El Kabong]

Billy Daniels gave him absolute hell too bad he got cut so bad

[Max Power]

nobody beats ali in his prime but Frazier and Marciano. if joe did it then Rock would too.

LOL So Clay can beat all of Wladimir's massive or otherwise elite athletic modern opponents...

But we're willing to concede he loses to a handicap fat dwarf and a circus carnie..

You KNOW you don't buy into that Brock!

That crap is so far beyond reality you couldn't have a straight face writing that stuff.

thing is, the only thing we can only really judge wlads boxing on is his carear before peter 2

since peter 2 its not really been boxing

from that evidence id say wlad would be a contender in any era but never champ

@maxpower what did Joe frazier have on March 8, 1971, that Rocky The Brockton Blockbuster Marciano did not have? ANSWER: NOTHING!!!

Marciano wasn't a one-armed fighter as Frazier was---- how many right hands did Frazier throw that night? 5? 6? 10 at most

Marciano had dynamite in BOTH fists. Marciano KO ali, Round 9

I dunno who hit harder out of Marciano or Frazier.. Instinct leads me to believe it's Frazier, but it could possibly be Marciano.

I already declared Marciano has a chance.

Let's be fair then and claim Marciano has just as much chance as Frazier if that makes you feel better!

SO WHAT!?

Joe Frazier is possibly the weakest champ in the whole of HW history! And it is utterly pathetic that Ali lost to him and struggled so badly with him, proof of his limitations as a champion boxer!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you can quote me...

"If Joe Frazier was subjected to years of modern training AND massive amounts of steroids.. then he just MIGHT be able to scratch out an SD over Kimbo Slice."

That is a fact!

None of these guys, Frazier, Rocky or Clay, could ever withstand Calvin Brock!

That is another fact!

[ross]

"If Joe Frazier was subjected to years of modern training AND massive amounts of steroids.. then he just MIGHT be able to scratch out an SD over Kimbo Slice."

Max is either a very long winded elaborate wind up by another user or just a twat.

[Max Power]

"If Joe Frazier was subjected to years of modern training AND massive amounts of steroids.. then he just MIGHT be able to scratch out an SD over Kimbo Slice."

Max is either a very long winded elaborate wind up by another user or just a twat.

Kimbo Slice > Joe Frazier

[ross]

"If Joe Frazier was subjected to years of modern training AND massive amounts of steroids.. then he just MIGHT be able to scratch out an SD over Kimbo Slice."

Max is either a very long winded elaborate wind up by another user or just a twat.

Kimbo Slice > Joe Frazier

Max I have the feeling your a young lad on a site somewhere that brings up stuff like this and people feel obliged to slap you round the back of the head and tell you to stop thinking and get on with your job.