General Election 2015

[El Kabong]

http://i100.independent.co.uk/articl...cy--xy5yNbLBhe

Still feeling confident about Hillary for President?

Hillary is an absolutely shit candidate. Totally bought and paid for by banks and corporations, prone to verbal gaffes, completely out of touch with average Americans, unlikely to have any serious challengers in the primaries so won't get the opportunity to get sharpened up by debates and competition with anybody before she faces the election campaign. Endless negatives.

The only thing saving her is the fact that the GOP candidates all make her look good by comparison.

I'm guessing you're looking at this email thing and thinking ha!, here we go!. But every time you think that over the next few months what you need to think is, does anybody apart from people who hate her/weren't going to vote for her anyway really give a shit about this.

The last part isn't the key, the political key is "would Obama be ok with sacrificing Hillary in order to save himself, OR does she have something she's holding over him which would be a reason the DOJ would NOT go after Hillary?"

President Obama already admitted to not knowing about her use of private email, but it has now surfaced that they did in fact exchange emails and so that is a fairly simple fumble of the ball right there on Obama's part....he'd better hope there's nothing in those emails.

Hillary is plagued by these kinds of issues day in and day out for over 20 years, Whitewater, Rose Law Firm, the various sexual indiscretions of her husband, filegate, her lying about dodging sniper fire.....I believe the American people will grow weary of her especially because she's damn near declared already and that'll leave her alone in the spotlight for a time.....not a wise political move for someone of her experience.

[Kirkland Laing]

http://i100.independent.co.uk/articl...cy--xy5yNbLBhe

Still feeling confident about Hillary for President?

Hillary is an absolutely shit candidate. Totally bought and paid for by banks and corporations, prone to verbal gaffes, completely out of touch with average Americans, unlikely to have any serious challengers in the primaries so won't get the opportunity to get sharpened up by debates and competition with anybody before she faces the election campaign. Endless negatives.

The only thing saving her is the fact that the GOP candidates all make her look good by comparison.

I'm guessing you're looking at this email thing and thinking ha!, here we go!. But every time you think that over the next few months what you need to think is, does anybody apart from people who hate her/weren't going to vote for her anyway really give a shit about this.

The last part isn't the key, the political key is "would Obama be ok with sacrificing Hillary in order to save himself, OR does she have something she's holding over him which would be a reason the DOJ would NOT go after Hillary?"

President Obama already admitted to not knowing about her use of private email, but it has now surfaced that they did in fact exchange emails and so that is a fairly simple fumble of the ball right there on Obama's part....he'd better hope there's nothing in those emails.

Hillary is plagued by these kinds of issues day in and day out for over 20 years, Whitewater, Rose Law Firm, the various sexual indiscretions of her husband, filegate, her lying about dodging sniper fire.....I believe the American people will grow weary of her especially because she's damn near declared already and that'll leave her alone in the spotlight for a time.....not a wise political move for someone of her experience.

You must not remember all the members of the Bush administration running their own private email servers. Dick Cheney and his man size safes in his office and his own system off classified documents. The White House having a shredding lorry turen up and shred tons of documents every few months and a local firm wiping hard drives on a regular basis. It only upset a few Democrats. Nobody else gave a shit.

All these "scandals" are things that only exercise Republicans and people who hate her and aren't going to vote for her. The rest of the country hears them and rolls their eyes. If the GOP want to win an election in 2015 by digging up non-scandals from the 1990s all it will do is make people contemplate what a ridiculous bunch of shit they were fed back then -- House investigations into whether Hillary murdered people or whether the Clintons were running a drug ring etc.

It's difficult for you to understand because your little shelf doesn't have the capacity for critical thought when it comes to politics. All it can do is store roughly forty eight hours worth of Fox News propaganda. That puts you in the same boat as a large number of other American voters, a lot of whom also interact with the internet, but just because there are a lot of you doesn't mean that everybody thinks like you do. The vast majority of people are just rolling their eyes when something like this comes up.

[El Kabong]

You must not remember all the members of the Bush administration running their own private email servers. Dick Cheney and his man size safes in his office and his own system off classified documents. The White House having a shredding lorry turen up and shred tons of documents every few months and a local firm wiping hard drives on a regular basis. It only upset a few Democrats. Nobody else gave a shit.

All these "scandals" are things that only exercise Republicans and people who hate her and aren't going to vote for her. The rest of the country hears them and rolls their eyes. If the GOP want to win an election in 2015 by digging up non-scandals from the 1990s all it will do is make people contemplate what a ridiculous bunch of shit they were fed back then -- House investigations into whether Hillary murdered people or whether the Clintons were running a drug ring etc.

It's difficult for you to understand because your little shelf doesn't have the capacity for critical thought when it comes to politics. All it can do is store roughly forty eight hours worth of Fox News propaganda. That puts you in the same boat as a large number of other American voters, a lot of whom also interact with the internet, but just because there are a lot of you doesn't mean that everybody thinks like you do. The vast majority of people are just rolling their eyes when something like this comes up.

#1 Condi Rice said she never used a private email account so there's your trouble using that word again...."All"

#2 New regulations were passed in 2009 which of course do not and did not effect the W administration, but DO effect the Obama Administration.


Also there's the pesky little issue about foreign money pouring into the Clinton Global Initiative and the legality of that.....but you were insulting me, I shouldn't have interrupted your posting of such important slanders pray continue

[El Kabong]

....mmmmm that presser did NOT go well, and that was with some C stringer media talking heads there.

Tough day for "The Smartest Woman in the World"

[pacfan]

Voting for a political party is like believing in God. It's an act of faith. Unlike God you actually get to find out that your faith was completely misplaced and none of the things that were supposed to happen have happened.


Of the 20 years I've been eligible to vote this will be the first year that I actually have. I've always trotted out the 'what's the point, they're all pricks' line.


I don't know who I'll vote for and I'm under no illusions that a new 'Great Britain' will be born, but I should vote, therefor will.


What I want.


I want immigration drastically reduced, I want people coming to this country to either have a job to come to, or to be academically/technically well placed to find work and also to be financially able to support themselves and whoever they bring with them whilst they look for work. If their money runs out and they haven't found work, tough shit, back to where you came from and try again in 12 months time.


Anyone going the other way gives up all rights to British benefits of any kind.


I don't want any foreign aid handed out to anyone. Whilst we've got homelessness and hunger in our own country we shouldn't be giving out cash to anyone. We already as a nation give enough voluntarily without the need for part of our earnings being spent on it.


My lunch is over now, I'll possibly add more later.

Politics and political parties are poisons that create thoughtless puppets out of its followers. It should be banned...

[El Kabong]

QUESTION: “Why did you opt out using two devices at the time, obviously if this didn’t come out, probably wouldn’t become an issue. …”

HILLARY CLINTON: “… As I said, I saw it as a matter of convenience and it was allowed, others had done it according to the State Department which recently said Secretary Kerry was the first Secretary of State to rely primarily on State.gov email account. And when I got there, I wanted to just use one device for both personal and work emails instead of two. It was allowed, and as I said, it was for convenience and it was my practice to communicate with State Department and other government officials on their .gov accounts so those emails would be automatically saved in the State Department system to meet record keeping requirements and that indeed is what happened.” (Hillary Clinton, Press Conference At The United Nations, 3/10/15)

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Sure it's trivial, but let's tug on this string and see what unfolds shall we?

[Kirkland Laing]

You must not remember all the members of the Bush administration running their own private email servers. Dick Cheney and his man size safes in his office and his own system off classified documents. The White House having a shredding lorry turen up and shred tons of documents every few months and a local firm wiping hard drives on a regular basis. It only upset a few Democrats. Nobody else gave a shit.

All these "scandals" are things that only exercise Republicans and people who hate her and aren't going to vote for her. The rest of the country hears them and rolls their eyes. If the GOP want to win an election in 2015 by digging up non-scandals from the 1990s all it will do is make people contemplate what a ridiculous bunch of shit they were fed back then -- House investigations into whether Hillary murdered people or whether the Clintons were running a drug ring etc.

It's difficult for you to understand because your little shelf doesn't have the capacity for critical thought when it comes to politics. All it can do is store roughly forty eight hours worth of Fox News propaganda. That puts you in the same boat as a large number of other American voters, a lot of whom also interact with the internet, but just because there are a lot of you doesn't mean that everybody thinks like you do. The vast majority of people are just rolling their eyes when something like this comes up.

#1 Condi Rice said she never used a private email account so there's your trouble using that word again...."All"

#2 New regulations were passed in 2009 which of course do not and did not effect the W administration, but DO effect the Obama Administration.


Also there's the pesky little issue about foreign money pouring into the Clinton Global Initiative and the legality of that.....but you were insulting me, I shouldn't have interrupted your posting of such important slanders pray continue

Like I said, what you need to think about is whether any of these "scandals" are of any interest to anybody who doesn't hate Hillary. There's a big old world outside of the Fox news bubble Woti.

[El Kabong]

Yep who cares if the former Secretary of State committed several felonies?


I mean why even have an election? Why not a coronation?

[SlimTrae]

http://i100.independent.co.uk/articl...cy--xy5yNbLBhe

Still feeling confident about Hillary for President?

Hillary is an absolutely shit candidate. Incredible isn't it?! And still is the front runner.

Totally bought and paid for by banks and corporations,
Call me conspiratorial, but Andrew Jackson was the last POTUS - Lincoln & Kennedy tried, but they got off'd. Since the meeting at Jeckyl Island 1913-1914...the POTUS is a position of pupeteering. No way could I have conceived that Obama would be elected & be able to make a difference. So Hillary is being pushed by the banks on the Dem's side & IMO Jeb on the repub's side. 2008,2012 IMO is just like the election of 1912, when the Warburgs financed all 3 candidates: Taft, Wilson & Roosevelt. If one candidate one- the privatizing of the banks would occur called The Aldridge Act. If another one it would be called the Federal Reserve Act. Didn't matter who won, the banks & affiliates had control over them and the media that pushed them or pulled them down.

prone to verbal gaffes, completely out of touch with average Americans, unlikely to have any serious challengers in the primaries so won't get the opportunity to get sharpened up by debates and competition with anybody before she faces the election campaign. Endless negatives.
Political abyss.

The only thing saving her is the fact that the GOP candidates all make her look good by comparison.
Aint that some shit? The almighty righteous right, has produced Bush,Dole, Bush, McCain and FlopRomney, damn that shit is pathetic. Dumb and Dumber

I'm guessing you're looking at this email thing and thinking ha!, here we go!. But every time you think that over the next few months what you need to think is, does anybody apart from people who hate her/weren't going to vote for her anyway really give a shit about this.

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You must not remember all the members of the Bush administration running their own private email servers.
I remember them. From Plamegate the outing of our own CIA agent to Republican Darryll Issa trying to explain away possibly 22 million emails lost. Too easy to google it, yahoo it. But I prefer to say fuck it.

Dick Cheney and his man size safes in his office and his own system off classified documents. The White House having a shredding lorry turen up and shred tons of documents every few months and a local firm wiping hard drives on a regular basis. It only upset a few Democrats. Nobody else gave a shit.

All these "scandals" are things that only exercise Republicans and people who hate her and aren't going to vote for her.
Conservatives love to hate. Its what they do.

The rest of the country hears them and rolls their eyes. If the GOP want to win an election in 2015 by digging up non-scandals from the 1990s all it will do is make people contemplate what a ridiculous bunch of shit they were fed back then -- House investigations into whether Hillary murdered people or whether the Clintons were running a drug ring etc.
Sad, but true.

It's difficult for you to understand because your little shelf doesn't have the capacity for critical thought when it comes to politics. All it can do is store roughly forty eight hours worth of Fox News propaganda. That puts you in the same boat as a large number of other American voters, a lot of whom also interact with the internet, but just because there are a lot of you doesn't mean that everybody thinks like you do. The vast majority of people are just rolling their eyes when something like this comes up.

2016 Clinton vs Bush again....

[brocktonblockbust]

both parties are simply two heads of 1 monster and that monster is pulling the wool over the eyes of all the American citizens

[Beanz]

What does any of this have to do with the British election?

[brocktonblockbust]

What does any of this have to do with the British election?

as I was reading down through this thread it did somehow morph into US politics. I was confused during the last reading of the thread and thought that perhaps the British election was on a different OP Somehow this thread morphed.

[SlimTrae]

What does any of this have to do with the British election?

[Kirkland Laing]

What does any of this have to do with the British election?

Woti.

[El Kabong]

What does any of this have to do with the British election?

Woti.

If you're implying that I caused this thread to veer off course then you had best re-read the comments starting from the beginning.


I'll be waiting on the apology you SHOULD provide