Karl Mildenberger ~ 'I Had The Formula To Beat Cassius Clay'

[Bill Paxtom]

Oh well, at least it was used as a good training session for Ali, he got to build some rounds without any danger to himself was a good move to use it like a sparring session and do round building once he realized there was no real threat.

'Milde'

Was a decent boxer with fairly good hand-speed. Though he was a southpaw, he positioned
himself with a 'squared up stance' and was open for straight right-hand leads.

'Milde' had a flicking quick right-jab, but he had no power at all.

As for size, 'Milde' stood at 6' 1 1/2" and had a 74" Reach, and weighed only 194 lbs.

He was not a big Heavyweight, and was not overly strong or physical.

Defensively, he was below-average, despite having a good bob-and-weave style.

[Andre]

Oh well, at least it was used as a good training session for Ali, he got to build some rounds without any danger to himself was a good move to use it like a sparring session and do round building once he realized there was no real threat.

'Milde'

Was a decent boxer with fairly good hand-speed. Though he was a southpaw, he positioned
himself with a 'squared up stance' and was open for straight right-hand leads.

'Milde' had a flicking quick right-jab, but he had no power at all.

As for size, 'Milde' stood at 6' 1 1/2" and had a 74" Reach, and weighed only 194 lbs.

He was not a big Heavyweight, and was not overly strong or physical.

Defensively, he was below-average, despite having a good bob-and-weave style.

Yeah perfect to build a few rounds up sparring for Ali. Why the 11 pages on it ? We going for the record of most pages on a non event?

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Max Schmeling ~

Comparing Cassius Clay to Joe Louis, after watching Cassius struggle with Karl Mildenbger.

"Simply put, Joe would kill Clay."

[Master]

~ Max Schmeling ~

Comparing Cassius Clay to Joe Louis, after watching Cassius struggle with Karl Mildenbger.

"Simply put, Joe would kill Clay."

Yes because Joe Louis fought exactly like Karl Mildenberger.

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Round 11 ~

0:02 > Both meet at Center-Ring.
0:03 > Mildenberger still looks be OK.
0:07 > Mildenberger starts to move to his right.
0:08 > Cassius has his hands up high.

0:11 > Mildenberger is 'pawing' at his left-eye, which is cut badly.
0:14 > Cassius flicks in '5' quick left-jabs, targeting the Challenge's left-eye.
0:25 > Both are circling at Center-Ring.
0:29 > Mildenberger is pressing, and is making the fight now.

0:32 > Cassius moves to the back Ropes.
0:36 > Cassis circles 180*, and backs to Center-Ring while poking the Challenger with '2' left-jabs.
0:39 > Mildenberger counters with '2' right-jabs.
0:41 > Mildenberger catches the Champion with a sharp right-hook under the chin.

0:42 > Cassius is driven into the front-left Corner.
0:43 > Cassius grabs Mildenberger, and clinches.
0:45 > Cassius spins out 180*, and backs out to Center-Ring.
0:47 > Mildenberger catches the Champion with a 'jarring' right to the chin.



0:50 > Cassius fires in a 'left-right'.
0:52 > Cassius backs up to the back-right Ring area.
0:56 > Cassius moves into the back-right Corner.
0:57 > Mildenberger flicks in '3' right-jabs to the head.

0:58 > Mildenberger is now sporting a large welt under the left-eye.
0:59 > Cassius circles out to his left and to Center-Ring.
1:00 > Mildenberger catches the Champion with a big sweeping left-hook to the chin.
1:04 > Cassius flings out '5' fast left-jabs, but only '1' lands.

1:08 > Cassius circles to his left 360*.
1:12 > Mildenberger has problems seeing out of his left-eye.
1:15 > Cassius sends in a good left-jab to the Challenger's left-eye.
1:22 > Mildenberger steps in, and lands a solid 'double' right to the Champion's body.

1:24 > Mildenberger lands with a 'right-left' as he walks straight into the Champion.
1:26 > Cassius counters with a left-hook.
1:28 > Both fighters move to Center-Ring.
1:30 > Cassius backs up to the back Ropes.

1:32 > Mildenberger is still pressing.
1:38 > Cassius left-jabs at the Challenger's eye's.
1:41 > Both fighters are now at Center-Ring.
1:43 > The Champion has the look of 'frustration' that he cannot stop the Challenger.

1:50 > Mildenberger steps forward, and lands with a light 'double' right-jab.
1:52 > Cassius is backing up again.
1:54 > Mildenberger is showing courage and determination.
1:55 > Mildenberger is forcing the fight.

1:59 > Cassius tries with '2' left-uppercuts as Mildenberger comes forward.
2:00 > Mildenberger counters with an overhand-left to the head.
2:02 > Mildenberger follows up with '2' right-jabs to the face.
2:04 > Cassius circles to he left 360*.

2:06 > Cassius can't keep the Challenger off of him.
2:08 > Cassius tries to grab the Challenger as he moves in close.
2:09 > Mildenberger digs in with a 'left-right-left' to the body.
2:11 > Cassius slides over to the left-side Ring area.

2:15 > Both miss with left-hooks.
2:17 > Cassius moves to the back Ring area.
2:18 > Cassius lands with a good left-jab to the eye area.
2:19 > Mildenberger counters with a fast 'right-right-left', but the punches lack any zip.

2:25 > Both fighters are at Center-Ring, and are circling each other.
2:26 > Cassius lands with a left-jab to the head.
2:29 > Mildenberger scores with a right to the body.
2:31 > Both are at Center-Ring.

2:34 > The Champion flicks in a back-handed left-jab with an open-glove.
2:36 > Referee - Teddy Waltham steps in, and warns the Champion for the 'open-glove' punch.

2:40 > Mldenberger moves inside, and scores with a 'right-left'.
2:42 > Cassius starts circling again.
2:48 > There is a 'lull' in the action.
2:50 > Cassius has 'nothing' on his punches.

2:54 > Mildenberger goes back to pressing forward.
2:57 > Cassius moves to the front Ring area.
2:56 > Cassius 'misses' with '2' left-uppercuts.
3:00 > 'Bell'

Round 11 > Clearly for Karl Mildenberger.

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Comments after Round 11 ~

Howard Cosell >
"The Champion is going to have a lot of explaining to do after this fight. He has a
hurt fighter in front of him, and he cannot put him away. What do you think Joe."

Joe Louis >
"This Mildenberger is tough, but he's wide open for the straight right-hand. There
is no quit in him, and he can hardly see out if his left eye. But this man has a lot
of courage and determination. He wants to win, just not survive."

Howard Cosell >
"But he's had Mildenberger down '3' times in this fight Joe, and he cannot keep him
down. He looks completely frustrated."

Joe Louis >
"He can't punch Howard."
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Max Schmeling >
"That's another Round for Karl. He's losing, but he's still in the fight. Clay is good, but
he has not impressed me all that much."

"If Karl had a punch, he may have ended this fight in that Round. I'm shocked. Is this
Clay easy to hit or what."
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Ingemar Johansson >
"This is funny. I would have ended this bout a long long time ago. Karl's chin is not that
strong. Clay can't break-an-egg."

"This is making me think about coming back."

[brocktonblockbust]

Racist US boxing writers came up with this against Joe Louis: America's white press began promoting Louis' image in the context of the era's racism; nicknames they created included the "Mahogany Mauler", "Chocolate Chopper", "Coffee-Colored KO King", "Safari Sandman", and one that stuck: "The Brown Bomber".

[Max Power]

~ Max Schmeling ~

Comparing Cassius Clay to Joe Louis, after watching Cassius struggle with Karl Mildenbger.

"Simply put, Joe would kill Clay."

Yes because Joe Louis fought exactly like Karl Mildenberger.

I think that was the point @Master..

That he would have been in deep water against Louis if he struggled so badly with featherfist cruiser Mildenberger.

I don't agree. I mean the best Joe Louis might have beaten the young 60's "PRIME" if you will Clay. But Louis could not have beaten the stronger 70's version no way.

Imo even the young Clay, up on his toes running around, would have done a paint job on stiff necked, concrete boots Louis.

[Master]

~ Max Schmeling ~

Comparing Cassius Clay to Joe Louis, after watching Cassius struggle with Karl Mildenbger.

"Simply put, Joe would kill Clay."

Yes because Joe Louis fought exactly like Karl Mildenberger.

I think that was the point @Master..

That he would have been in deep water against Louis if he struggled so badly with featherfist cruiser Mildenberger.

I don't agree. I mean the best Joe Louis might have beaten the young 60's "PRIME" if you will Clay. But Louis could not have beaten the stronger 70's version no way.

Imo even the young Clay, up on his toes running around, would have done a paint job on stiff necked, concrete boots Louis.

You do not see the bigger point do you?

Styles make fights and a slick southpaw causes Ali some minor problems more than a pedestrian orthodox fighter. Either way Ali wins.

[Max Power]

~ Max Schmeling ~

Comparing Cassius Clay to Joe Louis, after watching Cassius struggle with Karl Mildenbger.

"Simply put, Joe would kill Clay."

Yes because Joe Louis fought exactly like Karl Mildenberger.

I think that was the point @Master..

That he would have been in deep water against Louis if he struggled so badly with featherfist cruiser Mildenberger.

I don't agree. I mean the best Joe Louis might have beaten the young 60's "PRIME" if you will Clay. But Louis could not have beaten the stronger 70's version no way.

Imo even the young Clay, up on his toes running around, would have done a paint job on stiff necked, concrete boots Louis.

You do not see the bigger point do you?

Styles make fights and a slick southpaw causes Ali some minor problems more than a pedestrian orthodox fighter. Either way Ali wins.

Yeah I agree with that.

Southpaws usually make the more difficult opponents. True!

Cudos to Ali for overcoming his Southpaw adversary. He fought all comers (unlike some of my favourites like Lewis or Tyson)... Respect!