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    Well shit!! So what...now Haymon buys out ESPN and FNF is being canceled. Can't say that I don't feel fooking hoodwinked They will air instead only 12 shows a year...all Haymon fighters I'm assuming(?) Now I know that FNF is unfortunately seen as a running punch line to denigrate some fighters and thought of as a low tier show by a few "boxing fans" but what is this doing, establishing a monopoly? A thought comes to mind..well maybe it'll be quality over quantity...higher grade matches etc. But that's horseshit. Did anyone see Broner v Molina...Porter vs a 24 hr TBA Looking forward to Danny Jacobs vs Caleb f'n Truax are we? This just reeks of a Godfather trying to silence competition and/or other platforms available to other promoters. What am I missing, the plot? Please fill me in. This really does suck man. Fnf has been a constant, opportunity and exposure for guys on the way up and guys trying to rebuild. To me at least its always had a very independent 'feel'. I mean can you imagine Atlas being handed a Haymon script and reframing from being one of the very few guys to openly criticize officials and promoters for garbage matches? Personally I think this is horrible for the sport!

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    I was wondering how FNF was going survive with Haymon moving in on Fridays. I agree, it's a shame to see the old standby forced out, but it's happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Well shit!! So what...now Haymon buys out ESPN and FNF is being canceled. Can't say that I don't feel fooking hoodwinked They will air instead only 12 shows a year...all Haymon fighters I'm assuming(?) Now I know that FNF is unfortunately seen as a running punch line to denigrate some fighters and thought of as a low tier show by a few "boxing fans" but what is this doing, establishing a monopoly? A thought comes to mind..well maybe it'll be quality over quantity...higher grade matches etc. But that's horseshit. Did anyone see Broner v Molina...Porter vs a 24 hr TBA Looking forward to Danny Jacobs vs Caleb f'n Truax are we? This just reeks of a Godfather trying to silence competition and/or other platforms available to other promoters. What am I missing, the plot? Please fill me in. This really does suck man. Fnf has been a constant, opportunity and exposure for guys on the way up and guys trying to rebuild. To me at least its always had a very independent 'feel'. I mean can you imagine Atlas being handed a Haymon script and reframing from being one of the very few guys to openly criticize officials and promoters for garbage matches? Personally I think this is horrible for the sport!
    If this is true then this is outrageous and diabolical.

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    Default Re: The end of FNF

    I don't want to see Teddy suffer a heart attack or aneurysm or stroke on live tv, so maybe it's for the better...

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    Default Re: The end of FNF

    i dont think its a bad thing. fnf has been subpar. they usually dont show good fighters. and most people on fnf dont really make it past that. i think that this move will start getting boxing more popular by putting on fights that at least mean something. as long as the quality stays decent, i think its a good move.

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    Default Re: The end of FNF

    FNF will be back in a couple of years.
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    Default Re: The end of FNF

    This is part of a deal that puts PBC on ABC and ESPN. It's a time buy which means Haymon is paying ABC/ESPN a chunk of change for slots of their airtime. Haymon then has to pay all the production costs of his PBC TV shows and obviously put the show on (although technically it's a promoter putting the show on). Haymon then can sell the advertising space during the show and attempt to make his money back doing that.

    So this would suggest that he's going to have to put decent quality shows on in order to attract eyeballs and thus TV advertising revenue. Yes it's limited to his fighters but he's got a lot of fighters A lot fewer shows though versus FNF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    FNF will be back in a couple of years.
    Yup. Not everyone can be a Lomachenko, De LaHoya or Zhou Shimming right off of the rip. Just can't. There is gonna be always a middle tier from the no-televised, smoky back-room garage fights (albeit sanctioned fights) and the HBO-MSG-Showtime-MGM Grand televised fights on someone's undercard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    i dont think its a bad thing. fnf has been subpar. they usually dont show good fighters. and most people on fnf dont really make it past that. i think that this move will start getting boxing more popular by putting on fights that at least mean something. as long as the quality stays decent, i think its a good move.
    Floyd Mayweather made his debut on ESPN. Nearly every fighter featured on the NBC/Spike cards, Shawn Porter, John Molina, Adrian Broner, Garcia, and about 1001 other soon to be 'major players' over the last 25+ years had first exposure and significant airtime on ESPN before they ever dreamed of hitting Showtime, HBO or PPV. FNF and Espn before it was a platform and a foundation to build on and build up..a needed factory and opportunity. The stars of today didn't just wake up one morning on the doorstep of premier networks. This is similar to losing USA Network years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    i dont think its a bad thing. fnf has been subpar. they usually dont show good fighters. and most people on fnf dont really make it past that. i think that this move will start getting boxing more popular by putting on fights that at least mean something. as long as the quality stays decent, i think its a good move.
    Floyd Mayweather made his debut on ESPN. Nearly every fighter featured on the NBC/Spike cards, Shawn Porter, John Molina, Adrian Broner, Garcia, and about 1001 other soon to be 'major players' over the last 25+ years had first exposure and significant airtime on ESPN before they ever dreamed of hitting Showtime, HBO or PPV. FNF and Espn before it was a platform and a foundation to build on and build up..a needed factory and opportunity. The stars of today didn't just wake up one morning on the doorstep of premier networks. This is similar to losing USA Network years ago.
    other than floyd, what top 20 p4p fighter started on espn? at least recently, i cant hardly name any contenders that have really fought on espn. a few pretty good fighters here and there but thats about it. i cant remember the last time there was a fighter that started out on fnf and is now a big name. maybe im wrong but i cant think of any.

    anyways, the spike tv cards are supposed to be more for prospects according to haymon. also, there is still shobox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    i dont think its a bad thing. fnf has been subpar. they usually dont show good fighters. and most people on fnf dont really make it past that. i think that this move will start getting boxing more popular by putting on fights that at least mean something. as long as the quality stays decent, i think its a good move.
    Floyd Mayweather made his debut on ESPN. Nearly every fighter featured on the NBC/Spike cards, Shawn Porter, John Molina, Adrian Broner, Garcia, and about 1001 other soon to be 'major players' over the last 25+ years had first exposure and significant airtime on ESPN before they ever dreamed of hitting Showtime, HBO or PPV. FNF and Espn before it was a platform and a foundation to build on and build up..a needed factory and opportunity. The stars of today didn't just wake up one morning on the doorstep of premier networks. This is similar to losing USA Network years ago.
    This. The place for ESPN FNF was for the younger talent, always. The young prospects that needed more than the smoky back-rooms of some backwater show, but not really ready for a Showtime or HBO 4 rounder.

    I saw HEAPS of talent come through FNF, from Money Mayweather, Chad Dawson, Panchito Bojado, Dominic Guinn, just to name a few. These guys when I saw them for the first time all had under 5 fights. This was the BEST of FNF.

    It won't go anywhere... it will be back...
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